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Kimmy11

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:24pm

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Classic man wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:48am:

I have always been led to believe that this forum was not supposed to get involved in politics.  Why is this now happening? I do not with to see this on here, it's not what this forum is about.

Hi Classic man,

There is nothing in CBF's Content Policy which restricts this type of discussion:

https://www.costablancaforum.com/policies/content-policy/

Personal comments, however, about other members are unwelcome, so thank you for not descending to that level.

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Kim

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Posted: Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:19am

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"WHY?" (original post). Re: eg: brexit. "Its like standing in a bucket & trying to lift oneself up with its handle."    Q: Winston Churchill ( more or less). V

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Posted: Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:18pm

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Yupha wrote on Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:09pm:

I think the PM you are talking about is Toni Blair that should have been led form Downing Street in hand cuffs after sending 450 young forces personal to their deaths because of much worse lies that Boris is guilty of,remember Blair’s lies about WMD that never existed, I don’t support any pol...

...itical party but fair is what it should be.

This, other than being political is open to debate. Whether there was or was not WMD's in Iraq, the intelligence that advised the people in power believed there was. The difference is the WMD's were not found. If world war 2 went the other way, Churchill would have been wrong for all the British service men and women who died (far in excess of 450) If Maggie (not personally) hadn't been successful in the Falklands she would have in the same boat. Yes Tony Blair did send (in your words) troops into Iraq, just think if WMD's had been found what a different story pariah to hero at the flip of a coin. Any leader can only go on the Intel given to them at the time and they have to act on it. How good hindsight would be.

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swcoulthurst wrote on Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:18pm:

This, other than being political is open to debate. Whether there was or was not WMD's in Iraq, the intelligence that advised the people in power believed there was. The difference is the WMD's were not found. If world war 2 went the other way, Churchill would have been wrong for all the British ...

...service men and women who died (far in excess of 450) If Maggie (not personally) hadn't been successful in the Falklands she would have in the same boat. Yes Tony Blair did send (in your words) troops into Iraq, just think if WMD's had been found what a different story pariah to hero at the flip of a coin. Any leader can only go on the Intel given to them at the time and they have to act on it. How good hindsight would be.

Churchill was, without question, a genocidal lunatic. 

Only in Britain ( possibly America too) would he be so revered.. 

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Wilbur..... & much admired in  Europe( & other continental influences) & it's progressive potential attitude. Now? ....... Oh, let's see how this goes down in history. V

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Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:23am

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Posted: Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:23am

Wilbur wrote on Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:16pm:

Churchill was, without question, a genocidal lunatic. 

Only in Britain ( possibly America too) would he be so revered.. 

Maybe, but he led Britain very well during WW11.

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Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:54pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:54pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:25am:

Hi Steve,

An extract from Boris Johnson writing in The Telegraph in February 2011:

"When a regime has been in power too long, when it has fatally exhausted the patience of the people, and when oblivion finally beckons - I am afraid that across the world you can rely on the leaders of that regime to act solely in the interests of self-preservation, and not in the interests of the electorate."

We've been witnessing his words in action for months 😔

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Kim

And you believe somebody should be held accountable for past quotes do you.

Gemily1

Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:57pm

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Neil999 wrote on Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:36am:

Trump.. ring any bells?

Yeh and now look at the state of the USA with that moron and his group of fools now at the helm.

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Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:03pm

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Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:25pm:

Whether you call BoJo a "figure head" (which he is, albeit a dangerous one), or a "leader" (which he is not), whoever is our Prime Minister must lead by example, and not just to the clowns he calls his Cabinet, but to the whole nation.  In June last year, the High Court found Michael Go...

...ve guilty of breaking the law with regard to Covid contracts, but when questioned about it by a Sky News presenter, his response was, "But I didn't break the Ministerial Code".  How can anyone believe that is mitigation for breaking the laws that their own Government enacted?  But then, with a boss like BoJo, is it little wonder?  When Matt Hancock was the Health Minister and broke the law, BoJo backed him until external pressure and public opinion made it impossible for him to continue doing so.

How many times did BoJo speak from the despatch box at PMQs and say, "There were no parties", followed weeks later by, "I was told there were no parties", then, "There were a couple of gatherings, but I didn't attend them", and eventually, "Well, I attended a couple of things, but they weren't parties, I thought they were work gatherings" and on, and on, and on.  He is a liar; he was a proven liar even before he entered politics; he's been sacked - twice! - for lying; and even when caught out, repeatedly, he will say anything rather than take responsibility and make an unequivocal apology.  During my career, the corporations I worked for all had something in the company rule book that made "bringing the company into disrepute" a serious disciplinary matter.  What is the point of our country's laws if the law-makers can break them with impunity?  

Whatever our individual politics, any hope we have for a caring, compassionate society is forlorn while the examples set are by a Prime Minister who is a liar and a cheat. 

Very interesting statement what's your view on starmer and currygate or is that ok and squeaky clean because they are the opposition.

Boris won with a very large majority and I would say he will get in again especially when you have an opposition who are weak and have no policies apart from let's get Boris out.

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Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:14pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:14pm

Neil999 wrote on Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:23am:

At the end of the day, a lie is a lie, however big or small. The law does not differentiate. 

It is not a criminal offence persay  to lie otherwise most of the population would be guilty 

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