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aitchc1401

Posted: Tue Sep 1, 2020 9:13pm

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Cookep1 wrote on Tue Sep 1, 2020 10:39am:

Morning Aitch,

My point about Dan Wooton & Denise Walsh occupation is that neither have any scientific qualifications or knowledge. Their opinion is therefore just that. They are perfectly entitled to it, but it would be useful when contesting the science to include a range of information to support the poi...

...nt being made.

For example Denise quotes recent cancer deaths vs Covid-19 deaths. She fails to mention that cancer isn't a virus and therefore unaffected by the restrictions successfully put in place to reduce Covid-19. She also compares the death rate post restrictions not when the virus was spreading unabated and mortality was higher than cancer.

The inference of her piece is that some form of conspiracy is taking place and that the impact of Covid-19 is being grossly overstated. But the facts don't support this. I agree about lies, damned lies, etc. but the fact is there was a huge spike in excess mortality in the UK between Mar-Jun this year, and the the only known explanation is Covid-19. Yes it has seemingly subsided now, but that is most likely a result of the restrictions and possibly the virus mutating and becoming less virulent; though there is no data as yet to confirm the later.

So for now, I personally will comply with measures to reduce the spread simply because so much is unknown about Covid-19 and I'd rather be cautious than take the risk; after all, is wearing a face mask and social distancing really so onerous?

Take care

Paul

Hi Paul,

        I don't think the piece is about conspiracy theory, she quite clearly says that the virus exists, she is more being critical of what is happening now with overemphasis on the covid19 stats at the expense of ignoring all the other illnesses that are affecting people.

  She also mentions the fact that covid deaths were exaggerated, and the fact that PHE revised the figures down last month shows that there is some validity in what she is saying here also. The piece is more critical of us not getting back to normal, our GP's are not back to normal, our dentists are only treating emergency cases, hospital consultant appointments are largely via telephone. Whilst all this was accepted when the virus was rampant there needs to be a push to get back to normal. I think that is the gist of her piece, not trying to deny the science of covid19/

   She is definitely not in the Piers Corbyn/ David Icke league!

 However like you I will follow the rules that are in place, whether I agree with them or not they are the law. I personally do find wearing a mask onerous and I am not convinced about the overall benefit in all situations but I do wear one nevertheless.

Rgds,

Aitch.

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Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:01pm

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This post that was quoted has been deleted.

Said it all along , things didn't add up , never been a comparison with cancer , heart attacks , I still don't know anybody who's had it , I work with 300 hundred people and from a large family,  I think boris has realised this hence why he wants everyone back. 

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Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:43pm

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Bencr85 wrote on Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:01pm:

Said it all along , things didn't add up , never been a comparison with cancer , heart attacks , I still don't know anybody who's had it , I work with 300 hundred people and from a large family,  I think boris has realised this hence why he wants everyone back. 

See earlier posts for some facts, but let me ask you this, would you employ an unskilled laborer to install a new bathroom or fix your car or computer? 

If not, why would you base your views/decisions about a pandemic on someone who has no qualifications or experience in virology, medicine, or statistical analysis?

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Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:23pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:23pm

Interesting take on why Covid-19 mortality has decreased since its peak in April.

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-how-are-the-numbers-changing-in-the-uk-12059828

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Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:25pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:25pm

Cookep1 wrote on Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:43pm:

See earlier posts for some facts, but let me ask you this, would you employ an unskilled laborer to install a new bathroom or fix your car or computer? 

If not, why would you base your views/decisions about a pandemic on someone who has no qualifications or experience in virology, medicine, or statistical analysis?...

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Many professional respected doctors professors  and medical experts plus NHS staff who say the same and agree that covid isn't all its said to be but sadly main stream media wont show this as it doest fit the narrative !! to scare people is to control people it's not a new tactic to use fear !! Very shortly we will be into flu season where many many more people will sadly die world wide estimated at around 7 million ? will this be daily news for 5 months ? no it wont !! Will everybody be put back into isolation will planes be grounded will our country and world be put on hold not a chance !! We are being led by the nose for whatever reason and one day it will come out but untill then we will be told more lies !! 

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Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:02am

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Jacktom30 wrote on Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:25pm:

Many professional respected doctors professors  and medical experts plus NHS staff who say the same and agree that covid isn't all its said to be but sadly main stream media wont show this as it doest fit the narrative !! to scare people is to control people it's not a new tactic to use fear...

... !! Very shortly we will be into flu season where many many more people will sadly die world wide estimated at around 7 million ? will this be daily news for 5 months ? no it wont !! Will everybody be put back into isolation will planes be grounded will our country and world be put on hold not a chance !! We are being led by the nose for whatever reason and one day it will come out but untill then we will be told more lies !! 

1. You didn't answer the question about unqualified people

2. Can you provide any reputable source to support your claim of "many professionals"

3. Latest estimate of respiratory deaths relating to influenza is between 290,000 and 650,000 globally, not 7 million as you claim (source: US-CDC, WHO & global health partners)

4. Covid-19 recorded deaths globally stands at 811,000

5. Will we be put back into lockdown? Personally I doubt that very much for a variety of reasons including: treatments that are being identified & the economic impact.

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Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:33am

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Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:33am

Cookep1 wrote on Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:02am:

1. You didn't answer the question about unqualified people

2. Can you provide any reputable source to support your claim of "many professionals"

3. Latest estimate of respiratory deaths relating to influenza is between 290,000 and 650,000 globally, not 7 million as you claim (source: US-CDC, WHO & global health partners)

4. Covid-19 recorded deaths globally stands at 811,000

5. Will we be put back into lockdown? Personally I doubt that very much for a variety of reasons including: treatments that are being identified & the economic impact.

 1 Unqualified the actress yes!  2 Quite obviously researched what she said ! 3 Her opinion borne out of a quick Google of professionals that totally disagree and give their reasons as to why !! 4  And before you lecture I said the flu season not to date as the flu season has not begun officially has it!!  so if you are correct that so far 680'000 that is almost the total of world wide deaths from the con that is covid since march ?? then the 7 million plus prediction is going to be spot on!!   The flu season has a good 5/6 month run to go yet as that is the estimation for the 20/21 flu season ! I myself am very unqualified but research a bit on the net so try it ! Try opening your mind to other people's views never know you may just get a mind of your own back !! Stay safe .

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Jacktom30 wrote on Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:18pm:

 Ok you win as obviously everything is a challenge to you even a discussion!! so when I come over I'll let you give me a Chinese burn unless an arm wrestle can settle this huge battle of opinions and yep I think feckoff is pretty bad mannered to someone you have never met so don't you be sor...

...ry as we are all what we are ? Watch the interview in question then see what you think as your lucky to be so brave and not be terrified  as back in the UK my elderly neighbours are terrified by the news being force fed daily so good on you you brave fella. Have a great week.👍😎 

He wasn’t actually telling anyone to Feck off at all, that was part of what he was saying the doctors should say to someone who is in denial.    

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Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:28am

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Jacktom30 wrote on Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:33am:

 1 Unqualified the actress yes!  2 Quite obviously researched what she said ! 3 Her opinion borne out of a quick Google of professionals that totally disagree and give their reasons as to why !! 4  And before you lecture I said the flu season not to date as the flu season has not b...

...egun officially has it!!  so if you are correct that so far 680'000 that is almost the total of world wide deaths from the con that is covid since march ?? then the 7 million plus prediction is going to be spot on!!   The flu season has a good 5/6 month run to go yet as that is the estimation for the 20/21 flu season ! I myself am very unqualified but research a bit on the net so try it ! Try opening your mind to other people's views never know you may just get a mind of your own back !! Stay safe .

Try reading what is written. 290,000 - 650,000 is the estimated average global deaths from influenza i.e. the number that die every year. It is NOT 7 million! 

The rest of your post is jibberish and and aga in fails to provide any evidence or source to support you contention. 

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Posted: Sun Sep 6, 2020 3:34pm

This post that was quoted has been deleted.

Dan Wootton is not an 'unknown radio presenter'. He wasnt always an executive on the Sun. If you want to know what a poisonous troll he is search for him on google, or digitalspy.com. 

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