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Pension tax ?

Posted: Sun Mar 3, 2024 10:34pm
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Kelmenson

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I am a Republic Of Ireland EIRE passport holder and will be moving to Benidorm and I have been told I will need to pay tax on my pension which in most settings is tax free. Can anyone tell me if this is true and if so what % of tax

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Posted: Sun Mar 3, 2024 11:12pm

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Posted: Sun Mar 3, 2024 11:12pm

Pensions are taxed at the normal rate of income tax. You get the tax free allowance of €6700 a year (as you are over 65) plus there are other allowances depending on circumstances such as a low pay allowance, married allowance (though not simply added to your allowance) and so on.

Tax rates are then progressive depending on how much you earn. 19% for the first 6,000 above the tax free allowances, 21% for the next band up to 50,000 euro.

Be aware that bank interest and any other income derived from assets will also be classed as world wide income and will be taxable in Spain. Only government pensions are not taxed as they remain taxed in your own country. Government taxes are things like armed forces, civil service, firefighters etc.

Pensions are taxed elsewhere. It is that they are generally below the tax free allowance so you don't see tax coming off. They also add it to any other income in UK and it increases the tax you pay on that other income. 

You need to inform the tax authorities in Ireland that you are now a resident in Spain so that they won't tax you on any other income in Ireland. 

Kelmenson

Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:36am

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:36am

marcliff wrote on Sun Mar 3, 2024 11:12pm:

Pensions are taxed at the normal rate of income tax. You get the tax free allowance of €6700 a year (as you are over 65) plus there are other allowances depending on circumstances such as a low pay allowance, married allowance (though not simply added to your allowance) and so on.

Tax rates are then progressive depending on how much you earn. 19% for the first 6,000 above the tax free allowances, 21% for the next band up to 50,000 euro....

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Be aware that bank interest and any other income derived from assets will also be classed as world wide income and will be taxable in Spain. Only government pensions are not taxed as they remain taxed in your own country. Government taxes are things like armed forces, civil service, firefighters etc.

Pensions are taxed elsewhere. It is that they are generally below the tax free allowance so you don't see tax coming off. They also add it to any other income in UK and it increases the tax you pay on that other income. 

You need to inform the tax authorities in Ireland that you are now a resident in Spain so that they won't tax you on any other income in Ireland. 

So isn’t the British state pension classed as a government pension?

Presently I dont pay tax as my uk pension is below the basic Australian which is superior to UK

I have always paid tax in UK until I retired but never in Ireland as my business was in UK

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Herefordjack

Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:40am

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:40am

Kelmenson wrote on Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:36am:

So isn’t the British state pension classed as a government pension?

Presently I dont pay tax as my uk pension is below the basic Australian which is superior to UK

I have always paid tax in UK until I retired but never in Ireland as my business was in UK

No, the British state pension is not classed as a government, or crown, pension.

I find  the Spanish tax system pretty fair considering the public services we receive in return. Marcliff's post above lays it all out. I wouldn't worry about it or let it put you off coming here. If you have a low or modest income, you will probably find you pay little or no income tax.

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:43am

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:43am

Kelmenson wrote on Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:36am:

So isn’t the British state pension classed as a government pension?

Presently I dont pay tax as my uk pension is below the basic Australian which is superior to UK

I have always paid tax in UK until I retired but never in Ireland as my business was in UK

The UK State Pension is not a Crown Pension and therefore taxable in Spain. The following link provides details of what are classified as Crown Pensions:

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/international-manual/intm343040

The following link contains a guide to taxation in Spain:

https://www.expatica.com/es/finance/taxes/taxes-in-spain-471614/

Kelmenson

Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 11:58am

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2024 11:58am

Herefordjack wrote on Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:40am:

No, the British state pension is not classed as a government, or crown, pension.

I find  the Spanish tax system pretty fair considering the public services we receive in return. Marcliff's post above lays it all out. I wouldn't worry about it or let it put you off coming here. If you have a low or modest income, you will probably find you pay little or no income tax....

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