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Lee 03189

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:03pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:03pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 9:46pm:

Hi ggoggy1,

Pfizer BioNTech is a two-dose vaccine, so if your children have only had one dose of Pfizer, I'm afraid that Spain does not regard them as fully vaccinated.

Kind regards,

Kim

Does Spain count the 1 x Astrazeneca single dose jab as a double jab -  fully vaccinated ? 

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:37pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:37pm

Lee 03189 wrote on Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:03pm:

Does Spain count the 1 x Astrazeneca single dose jab as a double jab -  fully vaccinated ? 

Hi Lee,

The AstraZeneca vaccine is two doses.  As far as I´m aware, the only single dose Covid vaccine is Johnson & Johnson (Janssen).

Kind regards,

Kim

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Posted: Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:16pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:16pm

Hi All,

We are due to travel to Spain from the UK in a couple of weeks and as our daughter has only just turned 12 she's only had one vaccination, so is not deemed fully vaccinated. 

I hold an Irish passport and I read somewhere that she could accompany me and therefore these rules don't apply and she could enter with a PCR test instead. 

Has anyone heard of this? It's very confusing trying to understand the various rules. Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

Patrick

Kimmy11

Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 11:42am

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Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 11:42am

Hi Patrick,

Would I be correct in assuming that, although you hold an Irish passport, your daughter does not?  This is not a problem in your particular circumstances because the exceptions include "EU citizens and accompanying non-EU family members":

"Exemptions

Entry requirements may vary if your reason for travel to Spain falls into one of the categories listed as ‘essential’ - section ‘a’ to ‘i’ - on the Spanish Ministry of Health Travel and COVID-19 page. This includes residents of Spain. If you are an EU citizen, an accompanying family member of an EU citizen, including UK citizens and other non-EU citizens who are travelling with EU family members (including for tourism), a resident of Spain, or if one of the other exemptions listed applies to you, you will be required to present one of the following on entry:

  • documentation certifying that you have undertaken a COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification (NAAT) test (e.g. PCR, TMA, LAMP or NEAR) within 72 hours prior to arrival in Spain, or an antigen test taken within 24 hours of arrival, and tested negative
  • a medical certificate certifying that you have recovered from COVID-19 in the last 6 months prior to travel

See the Spanish Ministry of Health Travel and COVID-19 page for details. COVID-19 diagnostic tests (e.g. PCR, TMA, LAMP, NEAR or antigen) tests are not accepted if you are travelling from the UK to Spain for tourism purposes unless you are travelling with a family member who is an EU citizen."

So, you will need to show certification that you have been double-vaccinated no more than 270 days prior to arriving in Spain, or a subsequent booster shot within the last 270 days.  Your daughter will need to prove her single vaccination and also show a negative test result within 72 hours (PCR) or 24 hours (antigen) of arriving in Spain.  Also, you still need to complete the Spanish health form within 48 hours of arriving in Spain:

https://www.spth.gob.es/

Kind regards, 

Kim

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Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:35pm

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Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:35pm

Hello again Patrick,

One other thing I should have asked you: are you travelling direct to Spain from Ireland, or the UK?  If Ireland, my response as above stands.  However, if you and your daughter reside in the UK and are travelling direct from the UK to Spain, I believe the Spanish Health Ministry exceptions will still apply to your daughter - see exception k. below in this extract:

"Requirements for Entry to Spain from Third Countries: 


"If you are a third-country national, in order to enter Spain, you must comply with the entry requirements set out by the Ministry of the Interior in Order INT / 657/2020, of July 17, which modifies the criteria for the application of a temporary restriction of non-essential travel from third countries to the European Union and Schengen partner countries for reasons of public order and public health due to the health crisis caused by COVID-19.

"Any third-country national will be subject to denial of entry, for reasons of public order or public health, unless they belong to one of the following categories:

a.  Habitual residents in the European Union, Schengen Associated States, Andorra, Monaco, The Vatican (Holy See) or San Marino who go to that country, proving it documentary.

b.  Holders of a long-term visa issued by a Member State or Schengen Associated State who are going to that country.

c.  Health professionals, including health researchers, and elderly care professionals who go to or return from exercising their work activity.

d.  Transport, marine and aeronautical personnel necessary to carry out air transport activities.

e.  Diplomatic, consular, international, military, civil protection and members of humanitarian organizations, in the exercise of their functions.

f.  Students who carry out their studies in the Member States or Schengen Associated States and who have the corresponding permit or visa for long-term stay, provided that they go to the country where they are studying, and that the entry occurs during the academic year or previous 15 days. If the destination is Spain and the duration of the stay is up to 90 days, it must be proven that the studies are carried out in an authorized teaching center in Spain, registered in the corresponding administrative registry, following a full-time program during this phase and in-person, and that leads to obtaining a degree or study certificate.

g.  Highly qualified workers whose work is necessary and cannot be postponed or carried out remotely, including participants in high-level sports events that take place in Spain. These circumstances must be justified documentary.

h.  Persons traveling for duly accredited imperative family reasons .

i.  People who travel for reasons of force majeure or need, or whose entry is allowed for humanitarian reasons, proving it documentary.

j.  Residents of third countries listed in the Annex.   Escuchar Provided that they come directly from them, have transited exclusively through other countries included in the list or have carried out only international transits in airports located in countries that do not appear in the annex. For residents of China, reciprocity is pending.

k.  Persons with a vaccination certificate, that the Ministry of Health recognizes for this purpose, after verification by the health authorities, as well as their accompanying minors (under 12 years of age). In the case of persons residing in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland who come directly from the United Kingdom, they must also arrive in Spain with a vaccination certificate as of 1/12/2021.


https://www.sanidad.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm


Kind regards,

Kim

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Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:58pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:35pm:

Hello again Patrick,

One other thing I should have asked you: are you travelling direct to Spain from Ireland, or the UK?  If Ireland, my response as above stands.  However, if you and your daughter reside in the UK and are travelling direct from the UK to Spain, I believe the Spanish Health Ministry except...

...ions will still apply to your daughter - see exception k. below in this extract:

"Requirements for Entry to Spain from Third Countries: 


"If you are a third-country national, in order to enter Spain, you must comply with the entry requirements set out by the Ministry of the Interior in Order INT / 657/2020, of July 17, which modifies the criteria for the application of a temporary restriction of non-essential travel from third countries to the European Union and Schengen partner countries for reasons of public order and public health due to the health crisis caused by COVID-19.

"Any third-country national will be subject to denial of entry, for reasons of public order or public health, unless they belong to one of the following categories:

a.  Habitual residents in the European Union, Schengen Associated States, Andorra, Monaco, The Vatican (Holy See) or San Marino who go to that country, proving it documentary.

b.  Holders of a long-term visa issued by a Member State or Schengen Associated State who are going to that country.

c.  Health professionals, including health researchers, and elderly care professionals who go to or return from exercising their work activity.

d.  Transport, marine and aeronautical personnel necessary to carry out air transport activities.

e.  Diplomatic, consular, international, military, civil protection and members of humanitarian organizations, in the exercise of their functions.

f.  Students who carry out their studies in the Member States or Schengen Associated States and who have the corresponding permit or visa for long-term stay, provided that they go to the country where they are studying, and that the entry occurs during the academic year or previous 15 days. If the destination is Spain and the duration of the stay is up to 90 days, it must be proven that the studies are carried out in an authorized teaching center in Spain, registered in the corresponding administrative registry, following a full-time program during this phase and in-person, and that leads to obtaining a degree or study certificate.

g.  Highly qualified workers whose work is necessary and cannot be postponed or carried out remotely, including participants in high-level sports events that take place in Spain. These circumstances must be justified documentary.

h.  Persons traveling for duly accredited imperative family reasons .

i.  People who travel for reasons of force majeure or need, or whose entry is allowed for humanitarian reasons, proving it documentary.

j.  Residents of third countries listed in the Annex.   Escuchar Provided that they come directly from them, have transited exclusively through other countries included in the list or have carried out only international transits in airports located in countries that do not appear in the annex. For residents of China, reciprocity is pending.

k.  Persons with a vaccination certificate, that the Ministry of Health recognizes for this purpose, after verification by the health authorities, as well as their accompanying minors (under 12 years of age). In the case of persons residing in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland who come directly from the United Kingdom, they must also arrive in Spain with a vaccination certificate as of 1/12/2021.


https://www.sanidad.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm


Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim,

Many thanks for your response, though I must admit I much preferred the content of your first message :)

Yes, I hold an Irish passport but my daughter has a UK one. We would be travelling from the UK, where we live. So according to the info you’ve found it looks like it’s a no-go….

That’s a shame as we thought we’d found a loophole to what seems a harsh rule, she’ll hopefully have her second vaccination before the summer so all being well we can visit Spain then,


thanks again

Patri

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Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:07pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:07pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:35pm:

Hello again Patrick,

One other thing I should have asked you: are you travelling direct to Spain from Ireland, or the UK?  If Ireland, my response as above stands.  However, if you and your daughter reside in the UK and are travelling direct from the UK to Spain, I believe the Spanish Health Ministry except...

...ions will still apply to your daughter - see exception k. below in this extract:

"Requirements for Entry to Spain from Third Countries: 


"If you are a third-country national, in order to enter Spain, you must comply with the entry requirements set out by the Ministry of the Interior in Order INT / 657/2020, of July 17, which modifies the criteria for the application of a temporary restriction of non-essential travel from third countries to the European Union and Schengen partner countries for reasons of public order and public health due to the health crisis caused by COVID-19.

"Any third-country national will be subject to denial of entry, for reasons of public order or public health, unless they belong to one of the following categories:

a.  Habitual residents in the European Union, Schengen Associated States, Andorra, Monaco, The Vatican (Holy See) or San Marino who go to that country, proving it documentary.

b.  Holders of a long-term visa issued by a Member State or Schengen Associated State who are going to that country.

c.  Health professionals, including health researchers, and elderly care professionals who go to or return from exercising their work activity.

d.  Transport, marine and aeronautical personnel necessary to carry out air transport activities.

e.  Diplomatic, consular, international, military, civil protection and members of humanitarian organizations, in the exercise of their functions.

f.  Students who carry out their studies in the Member States or Schengen Associated States and who have the corresponding permit or visa for long-term stay, provided that they go to the country where they are studying, and that the entry occurs during the academic year or previous 15 days. If the destination is Spain and the duration of the stay is up to 90 days, it must be proven that the studies are carried out in an authorized teaching center in Spain, registered in the corresponding administrative registry, following a full-time program during this phase and in-person, and that leads to obtaining a degree or study certificate.

g.  Highly qualified workers whose work is necessary and cannot be postponed or carried out remotely, including participants in high-level sports events that take place in Spain. These circumstances must be justified documentary.

h.  Persons traveling for duly accredited imperative family reasons .

i.  People who travel for reasons of force majeure or need, or whose entry is allowed for humanitarian reasons, proving it documentary.

j.  Residents of third countries listed in the Annex.   Escuchar Provided that they come directly from them, have transited exclusively through other countries included in the list or have carried out only international transits in airports located in countries that do not appear in the annex. For residents of China, reciprocity is pending.

k.  Persons with a vaccination certificate, that the Ministry of Health recognizes for this purpose, after verification by the health authorities, as well as their accompanying minors (under 12 years of age). In the case of persons residing in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland who come directly from the United Kingdom, they must also arrive in Spain with a vaccination certificate as of 1/12/2021.


https://www.sanidad.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm


Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim,

Just been re-reading this, does that exemption apply to third-country nationals, of which I'm not one, holding an EU passport?

The Uk govt site states:

  • EU citizens and accompanying family members of an EU citizen (including those travelling for tourism purposes), residents of Spain, or those covered by one of the other exemptions listed may present alternative documentation to the vaccine certificate. See Exemptions
It's all still very confusing...I'm going to try contacting the Spanish consulate to try and get a definitive answer.

Thanks

Patrick

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Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 5:59pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 5:59pm

Carolcoldy wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 12:30am:

Found this 😟

Children aged 12 to 15 are to be banned from entering Spain from Wednesday 1 December unless they are fully vaccinated.

New travel restrictions, announced by the Spanish government on Monday in response to the new Omicron variant, mean that unvaccinated UK teens will no longer be able to enter the country from next week.

All travellers aged 12 and over must be fully vaccinated to enter Spain from 1 December onwards.

Absolutely ridiculous!!! Well Spain are going to miss out this summer 🤑

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 6:16pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 6:16pm

Hi Patrick,

I don't think there's a problem for you travelling.  The contradiction is that your daughter resides in and is flying direct from the UK, as per Spain's health ministry:

"In the case of persons residing in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland who come directly from the United Kingdom, they must also arrive in Spain with a vaccination certificate as of 1/12/2021."


Kind regards, 

Kim

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