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UK Ex-Pat Winter Fuel Allowance

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:29pm
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StuBurt

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UK Ex-Pat Winter Fuel Allowance

There are over 500,000 UK Ex-pats living in France and Spain many of whom are retired old age pensioners.
About 10 years ago Iain Duncan Smith called for wealthy pensioners who do not need benefit payments such as winter fuel allowance and free bus passes benefit payments should voluntarily hand back the money to the government. I would enjoy reading the audited statistics of the money repaid.
Shock horror when all UK Ex-Pats living in France and Spain had their Winter Fuel Allowance cancelled.
The then Work and Pensions Secretary explained that calculations were made on official temperature figures for each country, based on a five month winter that represents the coldest time of the year in the UK, matching existing criteria used by the government for other forms of cold weather payment.
In response to questions about recognising the variance of temperatures depending on altitude and region, Mr Duncan Smith said the government had looked at a system of weighting temperatures for areas with heavy populations of British pensioners, as opposed to calculating using figures for each whole country. But as the highest concentrations of British pensioners were often found in the warmer parts of European countries, it would have meant at least as many countries would be excluded as under the adopted scheme, if not more.
On the complaint that warmer overseas territories of countries like France, Spain and Portugal had skewed the results for British pensioners in those countries, the Work Minister said that European law would have to be changed for France’s Caribbean islands, Spain’s Canary Islands and Portugal’s Atlantic islands not to be included in the calculations.

The changes implemented including the system of weighting meant that the measurement of temperature was altered to suit the new criteria thus denying UK Ex-Pat pensioners the Winter Fuel AllowanceFor those of us UK Ex-pats that live full-time in France and Spain
we know just how cold the winter months may be.
Please view my UK government petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/647060
or click on the Q Code below to try and reinstate our much needed benefit to keep warm in winter.

DUI

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:54pm

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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:54pm

Good luck with that,I’m hoping for a beer,wine and paella allowance!

StuBurt

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:56pm

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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:56pm

DUI wrote on Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:54pm:

Good luck with that,I’m hoping for a beer,wine and paella allowance!

Love your comment and humour. 

If you start a petition I will definitely support it. 

Cheers 

Sheila64

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:43am

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:43am

Thank you. I have signed the petition 👍

StuBurt

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:52am

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:52am

Sheila64 wrote on Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:43am:

Thank you. I have signed the petition 👍

Thank you so much and may I ask you to spread the word as 100,000 signatures is a high target but still achievable. 

Best regards 

Stuart 

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tebo53

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:33pm

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:33pm

Sheila64 wrote on Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:43am:

Thank you. I have signed the petition 👍

I have signed too...

Steve 

StuBurt

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:37pm

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:37pm

tebo53 wrote on Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:33pm:

I have signed too...

Steve 

Thank you Steve and may I ask you to spread the word as 100,000 signatures is a high target but still achievable if we work at it. 

Best regards 

Stuart 

StuBurt

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:11pm

StuBurt

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:11pm

StuBurt wrote on Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:37pm:

Thank you Steve and may I ask you to spread the word as 100,000 signatures is a high target but still achievable if we work at it. 

Best regards 

Stuart 

When I first posted my petition on this forum I had just 32 signatures and now that has increased to 297 for which I thank you all

DUI

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:59pm

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:59pm

I didn’t realise that it was that really nice,intelligent,caring brexiter Tory Ian Duncan Smith that decided to stop the allowance.Such a nice man.

janiceroquero

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:09pm

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:09pm

StuBurt wrote on Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:56pm:

Love your comment and humour. 

If you start a petition I will definitely support it. 

Cheers 

Me too.Made me smile.

Lot of foreigners still walking around in shorts and strappy tops in my area, so guess they don't need a fuel allowance.

People like myself, been here decades, are now into the hoodies if we leave the house before 10.

As for heating I put the butano heater on in the evening, for a couple of hours. Live in a west facing apartment so get the benefit of the sun until it goes down.

I'll sign the wine and paella allowance, thank you.

Cheers, J

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