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DUI

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:14pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:14pm

Grannyrose wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:37pm:

That man will never hear another word about it and will return and do the same thing.  I know of a man who arrived in Spain before lockdown. Gas since bought at least 2 probably and a lovely Spanish car. Pops off here there and every and guess what?  Nobody has ever ssid a word to him e...

...ither. 

My neighbour was Swedish and always arrived in September and returned to Sweden in April. Did this for 22 years. Sadly, she’s now residing in a nursing home in Sweden. 

My husband and I always respected the 6 month rule but it never worried her 

During lockdown she developed dementia and needed to return to Sweden. It transpired that her passport was out of date but she was still allowed to travel back home. 

Good for your Swedish neighbor.Sweden is in the EU unlike the UK.Before brexit,Brits could come and go without any problems same as any other EU citizen.Its a different game now and any overstayers will face consequences going forward.That is a guarantee.

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:22pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:22pm

DUI wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:14pm:

Good for your Swedish neighbor.Sweden is in the EU unlike the UK.Before brexit,Brits could come and go without any problems same as any other EU citizen.Its a different game now and any overstayers will face consequences going forward.That is a guarantee.

Has anyone know of anyone who has been stopped and what happen to them? No worries here I pick up my TIE in Alicante soon. 

DUI

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:32pm

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Andycolleen wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:22pm:

Has anyone know of anyone who has been stopped and what happen to them? No worries here I pick up my TIE in Alicante soon. 

Good friends of my good friends were fined leaving France into UK,worked out from memory about €18 a day each.Were given the choice of a Shengen ban for approximately 3 years,again from memory.I know the story is second hand but I trust what my friend told me.They paid the fine.

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:52pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:52pm

DUI wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:32pm:

Good friends of my good friends were fined leaving France into UK,worked out from memory about €18 a day each.Were given the choice of a Shengen ban for approximately 3 years,again from memory.I know the story is second hand but I trust what my friend told me.They paid the fine.

That isn’t Spain. They stamp passports with stamps that have run out of ink . You can’t even see a date . 

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15pm

Andycolleen wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:52pm:

That isn’t Spain. They stamp passports with stamps that have run out of ink . You can’t even see a date . 

Don’t worry about the lack of ink,the Passport is recorded on the computer when you hand it over.

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Posted: Sat Sep 3, 2022 9:55am

DUI wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15pm:

Don’t worry about the lack of ink,the Passport is recorded on the computer when you hand it over.

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Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:11pm

DUI wrote on Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:15pm:

Don’t worry about the lack of ink,the Passport is recorded on the computer when you hand it over.

It is an interesting one that about recording or stamping the passport. Here is a scenario that might get round that, but of course won't apply to everyone.

A Person with Dual nationality and 2 passports (British and Irish for example), could use one for entry and exit into Spain, using passport one and then when returning use the second passport for his other country.

So in theory he enters Spain on 02/01/2023 and leaves again for one night on 31/03/23. Comes back again with same passport and leaves again on 30/06/2023. He then stays in the UK for a week and then come back in again, with second passport, stays 3 months, back for a week and then back again to Spain. Leaves again at the end of December and repeats to process again from 2024 onwards.

There may be a glitch in my theory, but I don't see one.

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Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:25pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:25pm

Carlmc wrote on Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:11pm:

It is an interesting one that about recording or stamping the passport. Here is a scenario that might get round that, but of course won't apply to everyone.

A Person with Dual nationality and 2 passports (British and Irish for example), could use one for entry and exit into Spain, using passport one and then when returning use the second passport for his other country....

...

So in theory he enters Spain on 02/01/2023 and leaves again for one night on 31/03/23. Comes back again with same passport and leaves again on 30/06/2023. He then stays in the UK for a week and then come back in again, with second passport, stays 3 months, back for a week and then back again to Spain. Leaves again at the end of December and repeats to process again from 2024 onwards.

There may be a glitch in my theory, but I don't see one.

It definitely can be done. I used to have two British passports as I need one for getting new visas while I was working . I was always told it’s highly illegal to get caught carrying two passports at the same time .also at some time if the passport is ever inspected they could see that you have a in stamp but no out stamp. Also they try and stamp the in and out on the same page. Easier to get a visa . 

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Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:06am

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Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:06am

Andycolleen wrote on Sun Feb 5, 2023 12:25pm:

It definitely can be done. I used to have two British passports as I need one for getting new visas while I was working . I was always told it’s highly illegal to get caught carrying two passports at the same time .also at some time if the passport is ever inspected they could see that you have...

... a in stamp but no out stamp. Also they try and stamp the in and out on the same page. Easier to get a visa . 

I can imagine carrying  two British passports being a problem, but if you have dual nationality, you are perfectly entitled to carry both, hence the scenario I posted. 

aitchc1401

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:13pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:13pm

Carlmc wrote on Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:06am:

I can imagine carrying  two British passports being a problem, but if you have dual nationality, you are perfectly entitled to carry both, hence the scenario I posted. 

Hi Carl,

   in the attached link it describes the procedure that will be used for entry/exit into the Schengen area:

quote:

" It has been revealed that the system will record specific data on travellers, including their name, fingerprints, facial image, travel document type, date and place of entry, date and place of exit, as well as their stay period in the Schengen Area."

This would likely pick up someone using different passports. The last time I applied for the US ESTA visa waiver they collected more or less the same info, probably to detect people doing what you suggest. 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-soon-to-no-longer-stamp-passports-of-third-country-nationals-entering-schengen/

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