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Georgetheseventh

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:15pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:15pm

marcliff wrote on Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:30pm:

Several other threads on this since it first started.

But non EU citizens can already apply for a long stay tourist visa so they can stay up to 6 months in France in one go. It costs 99 euro and this is just stating it should be made easier for second home owners to get. Currently has to be applied for each time you want to visit....

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That system is not available in Spain at the moment but they could introduce it if they wished. Trouble is. the time it takes now to get an appointment for an NIE or TIE or even the padron in some places would put a huge strain on already stretched resources.

Patron in 10 mins in Catral...same for burn permit..

aitchc1401

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:46pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:46pm

George55 wrote on Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:42am:

A general point - I do find it strange the extent to which things need to be done either in person or via a form getting submitted and subject to review by an actual person in a government department. I struggle to understand why a raft of processes could not be more automated. (Note - this is a ...

...general comment about govts everywhere and of every colur- they always seem to lag behind the private sector in using technology to make things easier for people!)

As an example, money laundering regulations everywhere have continually been beefed up over the last 15-20 years or so - and yet I think it was possible for me to open an N26 account in Spain within a couple of hours without speaking to anyone directly. I can't recall how I set up a Wise account but think that was equally painless and so was the set-up of a Starling Bank account however many moons ago.

Indeed, the only recent involvement I've had with a bank that has taken more than a couple of hours to get resolved is in respect of a non-standard account in a country that some would describe as a "tax haven" - which would seem much more understandable given the likely rigour needed by the bank to ensure all the requirements etc are met.

So I just find it odd that France hasn't created a more streamlined system to deal with such applications as they are receiving currently (the ones costing 99 Euros) - if anything, you'd think they'd be incentivised to do it so as to make a little bit more money from the applicants they are getting. Am sure some FinTech could build something from scratch fairly quickly with sufficient AI/parameters set to complete applications in the same time it takes (well, maybe a little bit longer) as an ESTA for North America.

You'd think all governments in this day and age would be pursing digitalisation of some degree - although I think the issue mainly is that governments always do IT projects badly and have done for years!

Hi George,

  to confirm your comment on governments always doing projects badly take a look at the latest new today on the ETIAS project. 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eus-schengen-visa-to-go-online-all-you-need-to-know/

 The revised ETIAS go live date was put back until 2025, no month given yet but possibly May, that's unless " if other obstacles occur along the way, ETIAS implementation could be further delayed" - quote from the EU announcement.

I am not sure what the difference is between ETIAS going live and  the Schengen visa going online is to honest, I thought is was the same thing.  Might be time to check how many empty pages are still in my passport..................

Rgds,

Aitch.

marcliff

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:00pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:00pm

Georgetheseventh wrote on Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:15pm:

Patron in 10 mins in Catral...same for burn permit..

I said in some places. Takes weeks in Torrevieja to get an appointment for padron, for example. In Rojales I can go in and get it in 10 minutes. Alicante and other big towns are the problem.

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