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Gemily1

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:10pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:10pm

Jackie adam wrote on Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:26pm:

If your a non resident and can only go for half the year what's the point in keeping it as some ppl have said squatter are moving in to ppls property then your spending hundreds off pounds to get them out and some will trash there homes

People have owned second properties for use as holiday homes in many countries including the Uk Spain France etc for many years and use them only for short periods of the year,the rest of the time being empty or rented, the 90/180 days makes no difference, why would we just sell up because a pessimistic person implies through hearsay, that if they are not being used they will be squatted in, can you give the amount of properties that people own and have squatters in them.

I have read on the forum that there are some, which is absolutely terrible for the owners but to imply that our properties in general will be squatted in is nonsensical. 

swcoulthurst

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:30pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:30pm

Jackie adam wrote on Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:09pm:

I was also talking about squatters  using ppls holiday homes as there own and running up big Bill's what the owners have to pay and also the cost to get them out there has been a few subjects  on this 

I agree Jackie. It is a concern, but must be pointed out that, although it is reported on the forum, it will be a very small minority of second homes this happens to. Hardly a reason to consider selling.

Jackie adam

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:46pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:46pm

swcoulthurst wrote on Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:30pm:

I agree Jackie. It is a concern, but must be pointed out that, although it is reported on the forum, it will be a very small minority of second homes this happens to. Hardly a reason to consider selling.

Well that depends if your only using it half the year and your having to pay hundreds off pounds at someone else's expense for them to use your house run up Bill's then having to take them to court to get them evicted  then you get it all sorted and it could happen again once your back to the UK or were ever your from that's just my opinion as I've also seen a few homes on here for sale or homes to now rent out but as I said only my opinion😁

Jackie adam

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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:49pm

Gemily1 wrote on Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:10pm:

People have owned second properties for use as holiday homes in many countries including the Uk Spain France etc for many years and use them only for short periods of the year,the rest of the time being empty or rented, the 90/180 days makes no difference, why would we just sell up because a pess...

...imistic person implies through hearsay, that if they are not being used they will be squatted in, can you give the amount of properties that people own and have squatters in them.

I have read on the forum that there are some, which is absolutely terrible for the owners but to imply that our properties in general will be squatted in is nonsensical. 

I did not say they will be all squatted in I have seen the posts on here and also houses for sale on here and that was only my opinion  and I'm entitled  to that just as you are so keep smiling and have a nice evening 👍

swcoulthurst

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:17pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:17pm

Jackie adam wrote on Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:46pm:

Well that depends if your only using it half the year and your having to pay hundreds off pounds at someone else's expense for them to use your house run up Bill's then having to take them to court to get them evicted  then you get it all sorted and it could happen again once your back to th...

...e UK or were ever your from that's just my opinion as I've also seen a few homes on here for sale or homes to now rent out but as I said only my opinion😁

I wasnt saying I disagree, but I think that basically saying your house might get squatters if you don't use it is a little extreme. 🤔

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Tomtom29

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:51am

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:51am

On Saturday at Alicante airport my wife and I were refused our flight by EasyJet. . We are both in our seventies and we had , we thought all our documents on our devices , bidding passes , passenger locator forms and our Spanish health form that got us into the country. We did not have to hand , my wife’s British proof of vaccinations and by the time we found it in our hand luggage we were too late the flight closed. This Was very distressing for both of us and we had to book another flight , lose our onward travel rail ticket in the UK etc. EasyJet offered no support and the whole doc check procedure is a bit of a panic, especially if you are amongst the final boarders. I would not like this to happen to anyone else so please share this warning.

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:29am

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:29am

Tomtom29 wrote on Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:51am:

On Saturday at Alicante airport my wife and I were refused our flight by EasyJet. . We are both in our seventies and we had , we thought all our documents on our devices , bidding passes , passenger locator forms and our Spanish health form that got us into the country. We did not have to hand , ...

...my wife’s British proof of vaccinations and by the time we found it in our hand luggage we were too late the flight closed. This Was very distressing for both of us and we had to book another flight , lose our onward travel rail ticket in the UK etc. EasyJet offered no support and the whole doc check procedure is a bit of a panic, especially if you are amongst the final boarders. I would not like this to happen to anyone else so please share this warning.

Morning  sorry to hear this ,I assume you are back in UK now .At one time people in their  later years were afforded a bit of leeway regarding forms etc ,how times.have.changed .Governments who bring in these new rules and form filling assume that we are all tech savvy and do not take into consideration what is straight forward to some I'd near impossible to others ,when you consider that airlines ,unless you purchase a seat will not allow you to checkin until very near flight time ,it maybe an idea for these airlines to have staff at airports  to assist people before they board their flights to check all is in order with forms  people in their  later years usually can be found at the airport  with plenty of time before their flights

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:00pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:00pm

John 52 wrote on Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:29am:

Morning  sorry to hear this ,I assume you are back in UK now .At one time people in their  later years were afforded a bit of leeway regarding forms etc ,how times.have.changed .Governments who bring in these new rules and form filling assume that we are all tech savvy and do not take i...

...nto consideration what is straight forward to some I'd near impossible to others ,when you consider that airlines ,unless you purchase a seat will not allow you to checkin until very near flight time ,it maybe an idea for these airlines to have staff at airports  to assist people before they board their flights to check all is in order with forms  people in their  later years usually can be found at the airport  with plenty of time before their flights

Thanks for your concern , we made it back, no thanks to EasyJet. The problem for us was that as we tend to let others before us in the queue to save standing , by the time we get to the head of the queue we have just minutes to make sure we have it all checked. It would be an idea to go along the line and warn folk of what they need to show. Another elderly couple were not allowed on our flight for the same reason, Even if you are ok with mobile data , remember to keep your phone fully charged. Thanks again for your response . Tom and Carole

John 52

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:28pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:28pm

Tomtom29 wrote on Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:00pm:

Thanks for your concern , we made it back, no thanks to EasyJet. The problem for us was that as we tend to let others before us in the queue to save standing , by the time we get to the head of the queue we have just minutes to make sure we have it all checked. It would be an idea to go along the...

... line and warn folk of what they need to show. Another elderly couple were not allowed on our flight for the same reason, Even if you are ok with mobile data , remember to keep your phone fully charged. Thanks again for your response . Tom and Carole

As I said previously  Tom ,people in their later years used to be afforded some leeway ,but times have changed  and in many cases not for the best ,glad you got back eventually, it's good of you to aire your misfortune for benefit of others

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:13pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:13pm

oadbyman wrote on Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:53pm:

Who is making this move?

I cannot see it succeeding.

What stops me buying a holiday home in Spain while resident in UK, Russia, USA, etc then selling my home to make myself homeless I don't think the logic of Human Rights has any chance, if it does then it would defeat a lot of laws regarding immigration.

They always legally had restriction on time in Spain, and most would not want to pay Spanish taxes.

This is getting very off the ordinal subject to the extent of being OFF TOPIC

oadbyman: No-one made any mention of making yourself homeless to activate the ECHR. The alleged challenge would have centred on the rights of individuals to enjoy their property without hindrance.

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