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Darro

Posted: Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:23am

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Posted: Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:23am

Do let us know how you get on with that, where are thinking of I wonder?

elinspain

Posted: Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:54pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:54pm

Davebev1 wrote on Thu Oct 6, 2022 8:16pm:

Being a Schengen, not Spanish, rule Spain cannot 'reverse' it.  Spain have always had a limit on the length of continuous stay of 3 months without some form of residency, although EU nationals can leave and restart that 3 month period as frequently as they wish, not bound by the 90/180. ...

...; Admittedly it isn't generally enforced for EU nationals but it is still the law.  Spain also has tax laws that means anyone, EU or otherwise, who spends more than 182 days a year in Spain is classed as a fiscal resident regardless and should pay taxes in Spain accordingly.  As a non-resident you own a second, not primary, home and therefore, by definition, would spend less than 6 months of the year there.  So the total amount of time second home owners can spend in Spain hasn't changed, it's the spread of that time that has changed.

Spain can, of course, introduce a new type of tourist or homeowners visa for third country nationals that permits longer single stays but that involves changing Spanish law.  Like all political parties throughout the world, the parties are looking at manifesto pledges that will appeal to their electorate throughout their country, and away from a few coastal areas the idea of a new tourist or homeowners visa is unlikely to be a vote winner, so unlikely to be much of a priority for any of the major political parties.  So we are left working with the status quo of 90/180 - I didn't vote for brexit but I am bound by the consequences of it (sadly).

Hello

 Well explained DaveBev - if clarification of the rules is required ( and as you can see, it is) this is a great post.

Cheers

Elinspain

Relyat

Posted: Fri Oct 7, 2022 9:15pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 7, 2022 9:15pm

elinspain wrote on Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:54pm:

Hello

 Well explained DaveBev - if clarification of the rules is required ( and as you can see, it is) this is a great post.

Cheers

Elinspain

I can't disagree with what you've said, however, it shouldn't need explained particularly to those who voted to leave and/or have /had a second residence here. 

And (if you'll pardon the grammar) who asks on a forum like this about something so important and potentially life changing. 

Do they really think that, when questioned at the border, they'll be told that it's OK to overstay because some anonymous voice on a forum told them it's alright? 

People have the knowledge of millenia at their fingertips. They know it's there, they know how to access it (by virtue of finding their way here) but rather than interrogate the source they ask us, who they have never met. 

Genuinely, sometimes I despair. 

Kath5456

Posted: Thu Feb 2, 2023 10:33am

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Posted: Thu Feb 2, 2023 10:33am

I find this to be the best Schengen calculator I have found. Not only calculates the amount of days you have stayed but also, more importantly how many days you have left. 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/visa-calculator/

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