EV Drive From UK - Page 2

There are 2 ways to look at that. More frequent charges but it charges quicker due to the lower capacity. Mine is a long range Kona so around 500kms (around 300 miles). My stops were 45 mins to an hour a time to charge from around 30% to 100%

Just one quick fact re my LPG conversion.  I fill up with gas at half the price of petrol, less in some places. I get the same MPG as with petrol and on one fill I get 600km and then I can just switch back to petrol If there are no filling points around.

All this with a 4litre Cherokee Jeep.  What's not to like? 

I have never fathomed out why it did not catch on big time. It's also far cleaner then petrol and diesel.

 EVs are incredibly polluting and planet wrecking when you look at the battery production. Whole chunks of the planet being turned into desolate areas and a new battery costing more than the car is worth.  Not worth it in my opinion.  Then you have to get rid of them afterwards causing even more pollution.

LPG is not manufactured, it is a by product from refining and used to be just flared off. Don't forget too, that much of the hype over hydrogen fails to address the fact that it is made by the reformation of natural gas that needs a huge power input and makes a lot of pollution.  The spin mongers don't tell you this stuff. Not much H2 comes from electrolysis either.

Don't believe all the rubbish you read. With petrol and diesel cars already being phased out by manufacturers then alternative power sources are the only way to go. Charge your EV on solar produced energy and EV batteries are nowhere near the cost of the car to replace, just to put you right on that score. Also I'm not sure 20-24 might is much to shout about for efficiency.

Thanks for the reply.  The facts regarding the battery cost vs car cost I heard on a well know motoring programme only last week that covers EVs.

Also don't forget that on some EVs the batteries can't even be changed as they are so big they form the backbone of the car. So when the battery goes, you scrap the car.  I don't call that progress.

There is no way would an EV ever be on my shopping list.  There are too many negatives and very few advantages.  For the amount of time I have got left I'll stick with what I have got, it's cheap motoring.

In my opinion EVs are the subject of the biggest example of marketing hype of all time and they don't tell you the truth.

The fictitious battery costs are circulated by petrochemical companies. All EV batteries can be replaced as they are bolted to the same shell and floor pan as the ICE cars. Once the batteries are no longer suitable for the car they are now being reused in the solar industry. Also batteries are now able to have individual cells replaced. As I say, don't believe all the rubbish that is printed and backed by previously said companies.

There are two sides to every story and you can believe whichever you choose.  You are obviously an EV convert..  Good luck.

Agreed but I read the horror stories online which are totally unfounded. I drive both electric and ICE so comparing the two in real life not by reading. Using my diesel estate car costing 180 Euros a month and my electric at around 40 Euros a month. 

I was not fibbing when I said that batteries form the structure of the car.  Have a look at this then tell me why you consider this might be a good idea.

I don't consider this in any way a sensible progression.

 https://electrek.co/2021/01/19/tesla-structural-battery-pack-first-picture/

This says future cars. You basically said the battery forms part of the car now and when they fail the car has to be scrapped. This is far from the truth. Also going forward the technology will be far better than today. I didn't say you was fibbing, just misinformed by the current media reports. The IMA battery on my sons car is currently 13 years old and still going strong, however battery technology is far better now than then and will continue to progress. 

No doubt battery technology will get better but they will still probably need the rare earths (for the motors) and chemicals such as lithium, cobalt and nickel that have to be dug up by children in far off mines leaving the areas like bomb sites. Lithium processing is a long complicated process before you can put it in a battery,

Since China supplies much of this stuff that, to me, is another reason never to get one.  Why should we even consider trading with China with their record?

It makes me spit feathers when you see how much foreign aid the UK still gives to China.

No, you can keep your electric monstrosities.  I'll stick with what I know works and can be repaired without breaking the bank.   Happy motoring.  I hope you can find a charger when you need one.   CM