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Kush

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 5:28pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 5:28pm

Dave mackallen wrote on Wed Jan 8, 2020 5:23pm:

I will be going Down to the town hall tomorrow to find out once and for all about this Padron , as I don’t really give two monkeys wether I’ve got to be on it or not, all I do know is that there is a lot of people kidding themselves that being a resident is something special.

Its not about it being 'special' or not, its about being legal fella.

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 5:48pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 5:48pm

Who says its illegal?  In Cabo Roig the local police are sent out to get people to sign on the padron full time residents or periodic residents who have registered for council tax

Dave mackallen

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:08pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:08pm

Thanks for the advice,but I only followed what I was told which does make sense in a way,as if you own a property in that particular village,then it makes sense to let the authorities know of your presence so that you pay the rates and the bursar,which have to be paid,also by paying the rates the council knows of my whereabouts in case I need help in anyway.

That definitely makes sense,and doing this so called Padron is surely a good way of doing all those things I’ve mentioned,and I can’t believe how it can be illegal and so much fuss called by it all

Dave mackallen

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:12pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:12pm

I think that the authorities already know all about you as your passport has been checked for years, and no one as yet told me why it’s illegal to sign on the padro

Dodster

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:39pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:39pm

I asked the original question and I'm hugely grateful to Jim,Pete, Ray and others for the informed advice they provide. I really do not understand why some folks come on the forum with such cantankerous attitudes. Thankfully they are few and far between and the forum remains a font of useful information from sensible and generous people ever willing to help others. For the naysayers I respectfully suggest you Foxtrot Oscar.

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Cookep1

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 7:09pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 7:09pm

RayD posted: "Post brexit, you are no longer an EU citizen and after 30 days you have to apply to become a resident in Spain as an extranjero, again after 90 days, which means showing a lot more income.". 

So do you have to apply to become a resident after 30 days or 90? The Schengen rules are clear on the maximum stay of 90 days within a rolling 180 before residency applies, so where does the requirement to apply after 30 days come from?

Cheryl

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 7:42pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 7:42pm

Just to add a different angle to this discussion, whilst searching  on google about the Padron I read that a couple who owned a holiday home in Spain (but signed on the register as if  residents) moved over permanently after 6  years and applied for the discounted/free arrangement to import their car as part of their household goods. A search was undertaken and it came up that they had been on the Padron for 6 years and it was determined that they could not, therefore, be new to the country and had to pay in full.

Cookep1

Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:41pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 8, 2020 8:41pm

This post that was quoted has been deleted.

Thanks. Applying after 30 days "if they intend to stay for more than 90" now makes sense. 

jimtaylor

Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:13am

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Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:13am

Dave mackallen wrote on Wed Jan 8, 2020 6:08pm:

Thanks for the advice,but I only followed what I was told which does make sense in a way,as if you own a property in that particular village,then it makes sense to let the authorities know of your presence so that you pay the rates and the bursar,which have to be paid,also by paying the rates the...

... council knows of my whereabouts in case I need help in anyway.

That definitely makes sense,and doing this so called Padron is surely a good way of doing all those things I’ve mentioned,and I can’t believe how it can be illegal and so much fuss called by it all

For everyone on the padrón, the council get about €200 from the state, so it's a nice little earner for councils who encourage people to illegally register.

That money comes from state funds, which in turn comes from taxes they collect. I'm a taxpayer and object to my money being used to support councils who break the law. There might even be a reduction in the tax I have to pay if the padrón records were accurate.

The other point is that the tax office are entitled to demand payment of resident tax from anyone who declares themselves fiscally resident by signing on the padrón.

Dave mackallen

Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2020 9:24am

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Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2020 9:24am

I respectfully ask you to Mike Yankee Oscar bravo !

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