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My friend is waiting for his new passport from the UK he now needs to go home for a few days, can he travel to the UK on his Tie. TIA
PTaylor wrote on Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:28pm:
My friend is waiting for his new passport from the UK he now needs to go home for a few days, can he travel to the UK on his Tie. TIA
I would imagine that to be highly unlikely..
The TIE does not have a passport number printed on it and if, for whatever reason, he needs a "Stamp" then how could that happen?
I would say no.
Steve
No. The TIE is only an indication of residency and is not a travel permit.
tebo53 wrote on Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:32pm:
I would imagine that to be highly unlikely..
The TIE does not have a passport number printed on it and if, for whatever reason, he needs a "Stamp" then how could that happen?
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I would say no.
Steve
True but under what circumstances would a TIE holder be subject to passport stamping, I don't know of any?
If a return to UK UK is absolutely essential then if you can get to a channel port by road or rail (you won't be able to fly without a passport) then UK border control cannot deny entry to a UK citizen so long as you can conclusively satisfy them as to your identity by other means.
Strictly speaking a TIE holders 'home' is Spain, just sayin'.
Darro wrote on Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:36pm:
True but under what circumstances would a TIE holder be subject to passport stamping, I don't know of any?
If a return to UK UK is absolutely essential then if you can get to a channel port by road or rail (you won't be able to fly without a passport) then UK border control cannot deny entry to a UK citizen so long as you can conclusively satisfy them as to your identity by other means.
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Strictly speaking a TIE holders 'home' is Spain, just sayin'.
True but under what circumstances would a TIE holder be subject to passport stamping, I don't know of any?
I don't know of any either but I've read posts on here before where customs have insisted on stamping the passport even though TIE was shown.
Example:
Steve
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Your link relates to someone with a residencia not a TIE.
tebo53 wrote on Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:42pm:
True but under what circumstances would a TIE holder be subject to passport stamping, I don't know of any?
I don't know of any either but I've read posts on here before where customs have insisted on stamping the passport even though TIE was shown.
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The border guards are now, well some of them, getting around this new rule. If you have a permanent residency (permanent TIE) then they should not stamp your passport. Nor if you were a beneficiary under the withdrawal agreement.
If, however, you have a temporary TIE because it was under an NLV, then your passport should be stamped as that is the way they check on how long you've been out of Spain in the first 5 years.
Of course, not all the ones who check the passports will be up to date on this and we are not yet at the stage where people will have had an NLV for 5 years.
And, ISTR, getting a ferry from Santander and someone was refused boarding as they'd left their passport at home. This was before Brexit but UK has never had an ID card which allows travel between EU countries.
marcliff wrote on Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:07pm:
The border guards are now, well some of them, getting around this new rule. If you have a permanent residency (permanent TIE) then they should not stamp your passport. Nor if you were a beneficiary under the withdrawal agreement.
If, however, you have a temporary TIE because it was under an NLV, then your passport should be stamped as that is the way they check on how long you've been out of Spain in the first 5 years....
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Of course, not all the ones who check the passports will be up to date on this and we are not yet at the stage where people will have had an NLV for 5 years.
And, ISTR, getting a ferry from Santander and someone was refused boarding as they'd left their passport at home. This was before Brexit but UK has never had an ID card which allows travel between EU countries.
Thanks for that explanation Marcliff, it's what I was trying to get across but obviously I didn't explain myself well enough for everyone!
Steve
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:00am
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Darro wrote on Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:36pm:
True but under what circumstances would a TIE holder be subject to passport stamping, I don't know of any?
If a return to UK UK is absolutely essential then if you can get to a channel port by road or rail (you won't be able to fly without a passport) then UK border control cannot deny entry to a UK citizen so long as you can conclusively satisfy them as to your identity by other means.
...Read more...
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Strictly speaking a TIE holders 'home' is Spain, just sayin'.
I’ve been stamped officious passport man I’m not alone in that
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:15pm
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Interesting debate above, but there is ZERO chance of entering the UK without a Passport.
Steve
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