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Ej61

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:20pm

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:20pm

tebo53 wrote on Sun May 22, 2022 7:10pm:

Now that is a really unhelpful piece of advice.....

You wouldn't get work, you wouldn't get healthcare or get an apartment to live in.

You will also be an illegal immigrant!!

Steve 

True

Retired, don't need an apartment, and health care covered by my 6 month French visa. I would always stay legal.

Thanks for input.

Darro

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:18am

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:18am

I'm not aware of a 6 month visa for France.

What there is is the VLS-TS visa and if that's what you're basing your theories on then I think your understanding of it may be flawed. 
 
https://www.welcometofrance.com/en/sheet/fact-sheet-long-stay-visa

I suggest you run through the wizard particularly noting the accommodation requirements.

Even if you did 'con' your way into a first visa trying it a second time would be highly likely to raise flags.

I repeat what I said earlier about workarounds for the 90 day rule. 

You might find this informative.

http://www.immigration.interieur.gouv.fr/content/download/98030/768999/file/Livret_Venir-vivre-en-France_sept2016_EUK.pdf

tebo53

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:04am

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:04am

Darro wrote on Mon May 23, 2022 6:18am:

I'm not aware of a 6 month visa for France.

What there is is the VLS-TS visa and if that's what you're basing your theories on then I think your understanding of it may be flawed. 
 
https://www.welcometofrance.com/en/sheet/fact-sheet-long-stay-visa

I suggest you run through the wizard particularly noting the accommodation requirements.

Even if you did 'con' your way into a first visa trying it a second time would be highly likely to raise flags.

I repeat what I said earlier about workarounds for the 90 day rule. 

You might find this informative.

http://www.immigration.interieur.gouv.fr/content/download/98030/768999/file/Livret_Venir-vivre-en-France_sept2016_EUK.pdf

Thousands of people have tried a work around and looked for loopholes for the visas and 90 day rule. None can be done as Spanish authorities have it all covered.

Steve 

tebo53

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:05am

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:05am

Ej61 wrote on Sun May 22, 2022 7:20pm:

True

Retired, don't need an apartment, and health care covered by my 6 month French visa. I would always stay legal.

Thanks for input.

Lucky you......

You will be the first, you need to report on here how it's done so thousands of people who have tried can follow your advice.....

Steve 

thejaps

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:25pm

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:25pm

Look on the Spanish consulate website and look at visas. There is one for relatives of citizens of the Union. There's a whole bunch of info there which reads to me like your spouse can apply for a visa to accompany you for your longer than 90 day stay. You have to travel together but I'm sure you'll be happy to do so

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:57am

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Ej61

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:42am

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:42am

thejaps wrote on Wed May 25, 2022 11:25pm:

Look on the Spanish consulate website and look at visas. There is one for relatives of citizens of the Union. There's a whole bunch of info there which reads to me like your spouse can apply for a visa to accompany you for your longer than 90 day stay. You have to travel together but I'm sure you...

...'ll be happy to do so

Thank you for your useful advice.  Will look into it. Much appreciated.

Ej61

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:43am

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:43am

Thank you for your useful reply.  Much appreciated.

Ej61

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:49am

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:49am

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Oh dear!!!!! Feel for you. Shame.

Two real facts for you instead of jumping to conclusions.

1. I am Scottish

2.  I voted to stay in

Adios amigo!!!!!!

JohnJulie

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:53am

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:53am

Darro wrote on Sat May 21, 2022 7:34am:

No, that would only apply if you became Spanish resident otherwise you are both tourists and with a UK passport a stay of over 90 days would brand him an overstayer and make him liable to penalties which range from fines to bans on re-entering the Schengen area for up to 3 years.

Sorry but this is not workaround for the 90 day rule, many have searched for that but none have yet found one.
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Darro - you are not correct with this. My wife and I very recently attended one of the Place in the Sun exhibitions in Manchester. We sat in on a talk on which the UK representative of HMG was part of the panel. He was directly asked the question posed at the beginning of this thread and was clear that the 90/180 rule would be eliminated if a UK citizen travelled and stayed in tandem with their EU spouse (in this case Irish). Healthcare etc is a separate issue and would still be recommended. He advocated possession of a GHIC card, however we know this isn’t a cover all by any means. Additionally, whilst non Spanish are technically tourists until gaining residency, this has historically been overlooked for all EU member states. Your answer was very black and white and didn’t give overall context to the question posed.

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