Britain looks to break International law - Page 9

Declan2 wrote on Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:17pm:

Not really. When one dismisses people with excellent experience like five former PM's coupled with a host of legal eagles, including the Advocate General for Scotland and  former heavy weight ambassadors like Lord Darroch, and then go on to dismiss lawyers and senior policemen because you be...

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...lieve they are either 'useless' or offer 'one sided opinions' smacks of hubris and arrogance. I demonstrate to you the earth is round, and you tell me that's merely an opinion, doesn't give me confidence in your reasoning skills.

 Opinions are free, however we are not entitled to alter facts arrived at by due diligence. You ask whether some poster was with the Paras etc on some or other mission and then offer a very one-sided and self-serving conclusion as to what did or didn't happen - having just railed against the lawyers for giving one-sided (in your view of course) conclusions.  You really cannot have it both ways. We ask lawyers, judges and former police to investigate things just because of their experience and independence. If we want a plumber or a surgeon we at least want to know they're qualified, and that's not a matter of opinion, but of experience, so no, there aren't two ways to take a statement backed up by supporting evidence versus a self-serving opinion- and that's how it should be. It strikes me you want the facts to fit your view, not the other way around, and that's rarely a successful strategy, Just ask Trump, or Boris.

Declan2 wrote on Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:17pm:

Not really. When one dismisses people with excellent experience like five former PM's coupled with a host of legal eagles, including the Advocate General for Scotland and  former heavy weight ambassadors like Lord Darroch, and then go on to dismiss lawyers and senior policemen because you be...

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...lieve they are either 'useless' or offer 'one sided opinions' smacks of hubris and arrogance. I demonstrate to you the earth is round, and you tell me that's merely an opinion, doesn't give me confidence in your reasoning skills.

 Opinions are free, however we are not entitled to alter facts arrived at by due diligence. You ask whether some poster was with the Paras etc on some or other mission and then offer a very one-sided and self-serving conclusion as to what did or didn't happen - having just railed against the lawyers for giving one-sided (in your view of course) conclusions.  You really cannot have it both ways. We ask lawyers, judges and former police to investigate things just because of their experience and independence. If we want a plumber or a surgeon we at least want to know they're qualified, and that's not a matter of opinion, but of experience, so no, there aren't two ways to take a statement backed up by supporting evidence versus a self-serving opinion- and that's how it should be. It strikes me you want the facts to fit your view, not the other way around, and that's rarely a successful strategy, Just ask Trump, or Boris.

Gemily1 wrote on Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:40pm:

Now now you arrogant person there is no need to insult people because we have a different opinion or disagree with your superior knowledge, so if you are referring to me as gammon, I think I need an apology.

adammc wrote on Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:25pm:

Democracy is a continuing issue it doesn't stop when you get the result you want. You cannot stifle debate simply because a non-binding referendum was won

I genuinely think that people who voted for Brexit didnt have a clue what they were voting despite the frothing ranting of the likes of Nigel Furhrage.  Brexit was all about immigration but that is a whole other argument. I cant wait until the fantastic trade deals that liz truss is going to...

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... do come with immigration strings. People forget that 80% of the immigration in the UK came from outside the EU from the old commonwealth countries when we swapped a passport for all the mineral wealth of the 3rd world. Just to be clear I think immigration os great and ought to be encouraged

The irony of expats voting for Brexit is like Turkeys voting for Xmas but that seems to be lost on the gammony types; but you keep polishing your medals and dreaming about the bringing back the glories of Albion while Britain wallows in its 3rd world tinpot country status.

adammc wrote on Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:25pm:

Democracy is a continuing issue it doesn't stop when you get the result you want. You cannot stifle debate simply because a non-binding referendum was won

I genuinely think that people who voted for Brexit didnt have a clue what they were voting despite the frothing ranting of the likes of Nigel Furhrage.  Brexit was all about immigration but that is a whole other argument. I cant wait until the fantastic trade deals that liz truss is going to...

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... do come with immigration strings. People forget that 80% of the immigration in the UK came from outside the EU from the old commonwealth countries when we swapped a passport for all the mineral wealth of the 3rd world. Just to be clear I think immigration os great and ought to be encouraged

The irony of expats voting for Brexit is like Turkeys voting for Xmas but that seems to be lost on the gammony types; but you keep polishing your medals and dreaming about the bringing back the glories of Albion while Britain wallows in its 3rd world tinpot country status.

seanie wrote on Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:43pm:

take it steady now  guys, the way you are talking,it could end in ww3,listen to a bit of advice from an old un, first of all this is a friendly helpful great forum,if the truth is known,the outcome of brexit will hit you like a ton of bricks,what ever side you are on,we wont like it,so the b...

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...lame game,will get us nowhere,seanie