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Wilbur

Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:38am

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Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:38am

Bencr85 wrote on Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:27am:

Alot of British holiday makers pay into the Spanish system employing hundreds of thousands of Spanish people , were as when the east Europeans came in there millions they took and took some more resulting in 17.2 million votes to leave. Brexit has happened let's get the problems sorted and move o...

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Can you provide me with the link to this evidence of the impact of them on the UK economy. 

Thanks. 

Edit... I found it. 

"European migrants living in the UK contribute £2,300 more to public purse each year than the average adult, suggesting a net contribution of £78,000 to the exchequer over their lifespan in the UK." 

https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/recent-releases/8747673d-3b26-439b-9693-0e250df6dbba

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Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:59am

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Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:59am

Wilbur wrote on Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:38am:

Can you provide me with the link to this evidence of the impact of them on the UK economy. 

Thanks. 

Edit... I found it. 

"European migrants living in the UK contribute £2,300 more to public purse each year than the average adult, suggesting a net contribution of £78,000 to the exchequer over their lifespan in the UK." 

https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/recent-releases/8747673d-3b26-439b-9693-0e250df6dbba

What's the impact on schools,  council houses , wages , crime! , hospitals. Don't believe all that remainer rubbish. 

Wilbur

Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 11:12am

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Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 11:12am

Bencr85 wrote on Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:59am:

What's the impact on schools,  council houses , wages , crime! , hospitals. Don't believe all that remainer rubbish. 

I've no idea, but I'm sure you can point me in the direction of some evidence to compare with Oxford Economics. 

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Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 1:16pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2021 1:16pm

Wilbur wrote on Tue Mar 9, 2021 11:12am:

I've no idea, but I'm sure you can point me in the direction of some evidence to compare with Oxford Economics. 

It's called local knowledge! 

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18pm

Ampstar wrote on Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:02pm:

The reason you can stay longer in Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania and Cyprus is that although they are in the EU, they are not part of Schengen. 

There is no possibility of Spain changing the amount of time people from third party countries can stay without withdrawing from Schengen, andthe chances of that happening are less than zero. ...

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We cannot expect other countries to change their rules just because a percentage of the UK's population want them to. The vote was in favour of leaving the EU, and this is a consequence of doing so.

They can create a unilateral agreement direct with the UK if they wish. 

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:07pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:07pm

Just received a reply from my MP (Dominic Raab) - much the same response as others have had.  To quote him : 'The EU consistently maintained that the UK citizens be treated as third country nationals during the negotiations much to my disappointment.', and no reference to any chance of it changing in future.

He referred to the ETIAS scheme to which British passport holders will have to register from 2022, to enter Schengen countries without a visa. (https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-requirements/uk-citizens)

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:17pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:17pm

Sarahholland wrote on Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18pm:

They can create a unilateral agreement direct with the UK if they wish. 

I think you mean bilateral. Unilateral involves everyone, whereas bilateral is used between just two. 

For instance after Brexit UK and France have a bilateral agreed on the Channel Tunnel. 

This is what Spain are seeking. 

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:28pm

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Hi John,

Apologies, I wrote this response several days ago and have only just discovered that I didn't post it.  I won't respond in detail, as the thread has moved on and I concur with most of what Cpop has already said.

However, in response to your specific questions, I believe that some people who voted Leave were "duped", but I also believe that many were content to be led without question.  Demographics of the Leave vote show that the propensity to vote Leave increased with age, along with the unemployed and those of C2 and lower socio-economic groups, who hold strong, sometimes xenophobic views (irrespective of how they were formed) and this is what the Conservative government encouraged and exploited.  Personally, I think it speaks volumes that the majority of the 18-44 age group, those whose opinions are much less likely to be influenced by historic events, such as WW2 and the Race Relations Act 1965, voted Remain.

As for Harry and Meghan, my initial thoughts were that this is another example of the disproportionate power and influence of the right-wing press: a modern, progressive couple in the Royal Family, who could have been a great asset to "The Firm", being used as fodder for the masses.  But I've since learned more about Harry's mental health issues, following the death of his mother - the strength of his feeling against the press has, quite possibly, made everything that's happened since a self-fulfilling prophecy.  I hope that he and Meghan will be happy in the USA, and I hope they can respect The Queen's wishes to address their issues in private in future.  Given the plummet in both Harry's and Meghan's ratings in a recent YouGov poll of British people, it appears that many are less than impressed by the hypocrisy of those who demand their privacy from the popular press, while courting the attention of more sympathetic media outlets.

Kind regards,

Kim

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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:48pm

Purchased home one month before the pandemic. Comedy timing!!

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:43pm

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:43pm

craig245t wrote on Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:34am:

The 90 day rule affects me and I saw this petition elsewhere too.

What I don't understand is why they're petitioning the UK government with this. The UK government allow EU residents 180 days stay already. We need to petition the EU or Spain directly as its they who set the rules for their own countries. ...

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But it's the UK govt who have caused this whole mess with this stupid idea of abandoning our neighbours so  we can ship goods from the other side of the world, maybe it shows that I'm still a bit angry.

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