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swcoulthurst

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:30am

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:30am

Bencr85 wrote on Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:56pm:

One of the side effects of covid is blood clots,  why didn't they look at Britain s results , 25 million vaccines given with very few problems,  thank god we did brexit, would hate to think how much worse it could have been, 125 thousand deaths was bad enough! Your at war Europe don't l...

...eave it to Britain again ! 

I don't actually understand this statement. 

One of the side effects is blood clots? - Therefore needed to be investigated and not suffer the same results as the 1950's. 

Thank god we did Brexit ?? 

Don't leave it to Britain again ??

Could look at Britain's results on other matters

Total Cases 4,296.53    Total Deaths  126,155

Spain (because that's where we are) Total cases 3,212.332   Total Deaths 72,910

MaryM

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:35am

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:35am

Gerry59 wrote on Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:57am:

I am pro vaccine but reluctant all the same having myself been affected by the Thalidomide drug. I will be refusing the AstraZenica if it’s the only one on offer. 

Time is on my side as it will be several weeks/months before offered one anyways as I live in Ireland! 

If I want to visit my Torrevieja apartment again I’ll have to get vaccinated, no other way out. 

I was thinking on the same lines as you and if trying for a pregnancy or pregnant would not have the vaccine in the very near future. Also of the thalidomide generation ( though not affected) You really have to be extra careful if I in  this situation. As I'm 71 don't think a worry😂

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:31am

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:31am

  Well after all the hot air of the past few weeks about the Astrazeneca vaccine safety what is the situation today?  AZ still approved by the UK and EU medical regulatory authorities as safe and effective, now accepted by the all major EU countries as safe and effective, completed successful trials in the US that concluded the vaccine was both safe and effective. 

   The UK have completed around another 3 million AZ vaccines during the past 2 weeks whilst the EU bureaucracy have flip-flopped from banning AZ being used to banning it being exported. Meanwhile the covid inoculation program across the EU  continues at a snails pace, regardless of which vaccine is being given  Let's hope for the sake of summer travel that they get there act together sometime soon.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:34am

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aitchc1401 wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:31am:

  Well after all the hot air of the past few weeks about the Astrazeneca vaccine safety what is the situation today?  AZ still approved by the UK and EU medical regulatory authorities as safe and effective, now accepted by the all major EU countries as safe and effective, completed succ...

...essful trials in the US that concluded the vaccine was both safe and effective. 

   The UK have completed around another 3 million AZ vaccines during the past 2 weeks whilst the EU bureaucracy have flip-flopped from banning AZ being used to banning it being exported. Meanwhile the covid inoculation program across the EU  continues at a snails pace, regardless of which vaccine is being given  Let's hope for the sake of summer travel that they get there act together sometime soon.

Aitch. 

   

Well said , so much for this brilliant EU, so glad we did brexit , this has saved thousands of British lifes , come on spain do sprexit, 

swcoulthurst

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:39pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:39pm

Bencr85 wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:34am:

Well said , so much for this brilliant EU, so glad we did brexit , this has saved thousands of British lifes , come on spain do sprexit, 

May have saved thousands of British lives, but the rate in the uk is still well above other  European countries. Spain 7 day average new cases 18/3 4214, UK same day 6303. UK 21/3 still 5312 cases. I think the vaccine is a good thing and cant wait. 

The roll out in the UK is about the only thing the UK have got right. Also dont forget, the current surge in cases in France and Germany is a UK STRAIN !!

The UK is still the ranked 5th highest in the world. Nothing to be celebrated at the moment.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:06pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:06pm

swcoulthurst wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:39pm:

May have saved thousands of British lives, but the rate in the uk is still well above other  European countries. Spain 7 day average new cases 18/3 4214, UK same day 6303. UK 21/3 still 5312 cases. I think the vaccine is a good thing and cant wait. 

The roll out in the UK is about the only thing the UK have got right. Also dont forget, the current surge in cases in France and Germany is a UK STRAIN !!...

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The UK is still the ranked 5th highest in the world. Nothing to be celebrated at the moment.

A UK strain - it was discovered in the UK thanks to the genome sequencing capability that exists in the UK (something else that they got right). The strain could have come from anywhere, a bit like the flu epidemic in the last decade originated in the US but was called Spanish Flu. 

   It's not about comparing the UK to Spain, look at the infection rates in France and Italy, Germany looking at further lockdowns,  there you will see the impact of the slow vaccination rate. Getting ALL countries vaccinated is the way forward, the quicker the better. Rubbishing the AZ vaccine was just a smokescreen,

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:16pm

swcoulthurst wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:39pm:

May have saved thousands of British lives, but the rate in the uk is still well above other  European countries. Spain 7 day average new cases 18/3 4214, UK same day 6303. UK 21/3 still 5312 cases. I think the vaccine is a good thing and cant wait. 

The roll out in the UK is about the only thing the UK have got right. Also dont forget, the current surge in cases in France and Germany is a UK STRAIN !!...

...

The UK is still the ranked 5th highest in the world. Nothing to be celebrated at the moment.

Such negative thoughts.  I live in the south of Manchester, where the numbers of covid positive cases are a lot lower than the rest of the North West and the UK average, as well as many areas of the EU. The problem we have, is that many of ethnic minorities do not want the vaccine and live with several generations in over populated household's. This reflects the high numbers in certain area's of greater Manchester. This not just the BAME community's either, if you go on social media sites some rumours going round that are totally ridiculous eg there is a chip in the vaccine to let the governement trace and control the population!!!!

I am no great lover of this governement, but yes with hindsight things could have been done better, however as of yesterday 51 percent of the UK adult population has been vaccinated at least once, this is a great achievement. I really hope all adults get vaccinated, so we can get rid of this horrible disease. 

Stay safe one and all.

swcoulthurst

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:02pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:02pm

aitchc1401 wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:06pm:

A UK strain - it was discovered in the UK thanks to the genome sequencing capability that exists in the UK (something else that they got right). The strain could have come from anywhere, a bit like the flu epidemic in the last decade originated in the US but was called Spanish Flu. 

   It's not about comparing the UK to Spain, look at the infection rates in France and Italy, Germany looking at further lockdowns,  there you will see the impact of the slow vaccination rate. Getting ALL countries vaccinated is the way forward, the quicker the better. Rubbishing t...

...he AZ vaccine was just a smokescreen,

Aitch. 

Yes, but this forum is Spain. France is 6th and Germany is 10th in the list. UK is 5th. There was no infections in New Zealand until 2 British people went there and started a new run of the pandemic. As I said before, I know the vaccination roll out in the UK is excellent, but it is by no means a shining example on the rest of the handling of the pandemic.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:14pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:14pm

JohnGeorge wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:16pm:

Such negative thoughts.  I live in the south of Manchester, where the numbers of covid positive cases are a lot lower than the rest of the North West and the UK average, as well as many areas of the EU. The problem we have, is that many of ethnic minorities do not want the vaccine and live w...

...ith several generations in over populated household's. This reflects the high numbers in certain area's of greater Manchester. This not just the BAME community's either, if you go on social media sites some rumours going round that are totally ridiculous eg there is a chip in the vaccine to let the governement trace and control the population!!!!

I am no great lover of this governement, but yes with hindsight things could have been done better, however as of yesterday 51 percent of the UK adult population has been vaccinated at least once, this is a great achievement. I really hope all adults get vaccinated, so we can get rid of this horrible disease. 

Stay safe one and all.

I agree JohnGeorge with most of what you say. I'm not being negative but pointing out that although the vaccine roll out is a massive success in the UK. The figures are still high. I am from Manchester area too but lived in Spain for 2 years now, having owned a property for 16 years.

The roll out here in the EU and mainly Spain, because again this forum relates to Spain, is totally shambolic, but the figures are still lower than the UK. People are asking when they will be able to travel from the UK to Spain etc, but Spain has lower infection rates than the UK. Maybe the answer should be when UK figures are less than the country they wish to travel to, then they will be open to go. Spain is crying out for holidaymakers to boost the economy so are certainly looking to sort this mess as soon as possible. The problem is there are too many Autonomous regions here, all doing there own thing.

France is currently on lockdown in areas, but we have loads of French holidaymakers here now. We can't travel out of the Valencian Community into Murcia (for example) yet French and German holidaymakers can come here.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:21pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:21pm

swcoulthurst wrote on Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:02pm:

Yes, but this forum is Spain. France is 6th and Germany is 10th in the list. UK is 5th. There was no infections in New Zealand until 2 British people went there and started a new run of the pandemic. As I said before, I know the vaccination roll out in the UK is excellent, but it is by no means a...

... shining example on the rest of the handling of the pandemic.

Your missing the point, it's fine you saying Spain is better than the UK but that's not going to help if countries do not get their vaccine programs on track. Whatever the history of how well or otherwise the pandemic was handled it will not be of much comfort if infections, deaths and lockdowns continue due to the lack of a effective vaccine program. At least the UK are doing their part and making sure they get vaccines into arms as quickly as they can. Let's hope the EU can start doing the same so that travel to Spain can resume sometime this year. 

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