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patsyd

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:23pm

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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:23pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:45pm:

Hi Patsyd,

A digital certificate is an electronic ID which allows you to conduct Government procedures online with, for example, Agencia Tributaria, DGT (Trafico), INSS (Social Security), etc., such as register as self-employed, get a social security number, submit personal tax returns, request Padron certi...

...ficate, make immigration applications, etc.  Combined with a digital signature, such as Autofirma which you can download from the internet for free, it allows you to identify yourself from your computer or other electronic device at home, rather than having to make an appointment to visit a physical office in person.

There are different types, which give you broadly the same access.  You can apply for a FNMT certificate online:

https://www.ageinspain.org/post/digital-certificate-guide

You can apply at your Town Hall for an electronic certificate, or you can apply for a Cl@ve at your local SUMA office.

Applying for the FNMT certificate requires you to attend your local tax office for verification, and I've seen reports that Cl@ve can be clunky to use for some procedures, so I opted for an electronic certificate from my Town Hall.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thanks Kimmy, so it is beneficial to have this but not essential. Tbh, I’m not  tech-savvy, so I’d be quite happy to go down the manual route. However your information is really helpful, which I can pass on to others who might find it useful

Wizzy2

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:22pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:22pm

Kinky would you be so kind as to explain or send link to Autofirma please. I’m sure lots of people would be glad to know how this works. Also once we get the certificate, we need to email it to someone who is presenting dicuments on our behalf. How can we do this please 

Thank you for your helpfulness. Wizzy

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:03pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:03pm

Wizzy2 wrote on Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:22pm:

Kinky would you be so kind as to explain or send link to Autofirma please. I’m sure lots of people would be glad to know how this works. Also once we get the certificate, we need to email it to someone who is presenting dicuments on our behalf. How can we do this please 

Thank you for your helpfulness. Wizzy...

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Hi Wizzy,

I assume you meant me?  Good old predictive text, LOL!

You can download Autofirma from the Spanish government website:

https://sede.serviciosmin.gob.es/es-es/firmaelectronica/paginas/AutoFirma.aspx

Personally, I wouldn't share my electronic certificate with anyone - it gives them access to do many things in your name with no proof that it was them that did it, rather than you.  If a professional is presenting documentation on your behalf, they should have their own digital certificate or Cl@ve.

Kind regards,

Kim

Wizzy2

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:34am

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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:34am

Thanks Kim

Oops I should have re read the post first, sorry about that. I understand your concerns about the signature, but it’s a government requirement for the documents and too complicated for us to carry out personally. They can only be issued with our signature. 
Wizzy

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