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Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:14pm
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Martin6002

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Hi all,

As a family we love this programme. We are watching the re-runs and feel concerned for people who have businesses there.

How are people doing? Is there Gov. support for example?

Best wishes to all,

Martin

Pix Elated

Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 3:46pm

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Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 3:46pm

Martin6002 wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:14pm:

Hi all,

As a family we love this programme. We are watching the re-runs and feel concerned for people who have businesses there.

How are people doing? Is there Gov. support for example?

Best wishes to all,

Martin

I agree many of these smaller businesses could go to the wall, many were pining their hopes on the Easter Break, which was a wash out last year, then the Gota Fria in September.

So this year was probably make or break for many.

RayD

Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 4:26pm

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Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 4:26pm

There is government support for the legal businesses which are in trouble, or have had to close down due to coronavirus. There is also an EU cash injection announced yesterday to help out.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of illegal businesses around, a lot of them run by expats who aren't even registered, and of course the financial measures don't apply to them.

RayBenidorm

Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 6:20pm

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Posted: Fri Apr 3, 2020 6:20pm

As bad as this might sound during this tough time for all of us; this situation could weed out the "cowboy - ferry" builders, electricians, plumbers and all illegally working - non registered people from all EU and non-EU countries here in Spain.. Which would be a good thing for the government's balance sheet, screwed over legal residents who hire these lowlifes to perform work and legally registered businesses.

Your TV show is also just that - a TV show. Take it with a grain of salt as they say..

Dodster

Posted: Sat Apr 4, 2020 10:59am

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Posted: Sat Apr 4, 2020 10:59am

I'm a big fan of the show too but way before the Covid 19 crisis I wondered how many of the people featuring on the show were legals and what due diligence channel 5 had done before broadcasting that Bill and Jean from Solihull and moved into their caravan in Villasol 5 years ago. In one respect these folks are harmless only looking for a sunny retirement but on the other hand they could easily be illegal immigrants. I guess it's all going to come out in the wash.

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Posted: Sat Apr 4, 2020 3:32pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 4, 2020 3:32pm

RayD wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2020 4:26pm:

There is government support for the legal businesses which are in trouble, or have had to close down due to coronavirus. There is also an EU cash injection announced yesterday to help out.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of illegal businesses around, a lot of them run by expats who aren't even registered, and of course the financial measures don't apply to them....

...

Let's hope it gets to where it's needed asap.

Gilly09

Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 12:45am

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Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 12:45am

RayD wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2020 4:26pm:

There is government support for the legal businesses which are in trouble, or have had to close down due to coronavirus. There is also an EU cash injection announced yesterday to help out.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of illegal businesses around, a lot of them run by expats who aren't even registered, and of course the financial measures don't apply to them....

...

Not totally as cut and dried.

As I am fully legal and no help for me and I have Residencia.

My choice is to pay Autonomo at the lower rate suspend for 2 months but then go on normal rate of €370 per month. I struggle with the lower rate so all those "illegal" businesses people bang on about may have no choice as that is starting to look like the only option for many as they don't earn enough.

Many people I know also have extended their borrowing power of family and friends.

I asked the bank for a 300 overdraft to  over food and Autonomo and was told no as I had no money in the bank! Errrr reason for overdraft.

Life is not black and white that is all I am saying before people judge.

RayD

Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 1:00pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 1:00pm

Gilly09 wrote on Sun Apr 5, 2020 12:45am:

Not totally as cut and dried.

As I am fully legal and no help for me and I have Residencia.

My choice is to pay Autonomo at the lower rate suspend for 2 months but then go on normal rate of €370 per month. I struggle with the lower rate so all those "illegal" businesses people bang on about may have no choice as that is starting to look like the only option for many as they don't earn enough.

Many people I know also have extended their borrowing power of family and friends.

I asked the bank for a 300 overdraft to  over food and Autonomo and was told no as I had no money in the bank! Errrr reason for overdraft.

Life is not black and white that is all I am saying before people judge.

I must admit I didn't understand your post.

Are you saying that it's OK not to pay into the social security if you can't afford it, and if you don't, you are legal?

So, anyone can start up a business and not register as autónomo, not pay into INSS and be legal?

If that is what you are saying, could you please point out an official reference to that.

If I have misunderstood you, please could you put me right?

RayD

Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 6:19pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 6:19pm

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Don't forget the millones that the EU are contributing as well

That's an advantage of being part of the EU and eorozone

Balmer9

Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 6:48pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 5, 2020 6:48pm

Unfortunately if you are waiting for EU help you may be hung out to dry. Italy and Spain pleaded for an EU ‘Marshall Plan’ to lift their already flagging economies, which have never fully recovered from the sovereign debt crisis which followed the last recession. But they were rebuffed by Germany and the Netherlands. They also asked for ‘coronabonds’ to fund the recovery from the crisis, only for that to be dismissed, too. Angela Merkel insisted that Italy and Spain, both deeply damaged from three weeks’ lockdown, apply instead to the European Stability Mechanism, which southern countries blame for the depth of Greece’s problems ten years ago. Unlike Britain, Spain and Italy cannot quantitatively-ease their way out of this crisis because, as members of the Euro, the control of their money supply is in the hands of the European Central Bank.

Many have been caught out by the Covid-19 crisis, but no institution has been left looking quite so helpless as the EU.

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