1000s leaving Spain - Page 3

BerylLFC wrote on Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:11am:

We voted to stay  no to Brexit although we now live in Spain.  5 years here 4.5 years as residents uk has nothing to offer the young now it’s dying . In Liverpool where I am from we did more business and had more support from Europe than our own government , thanks to the hard work of...

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... our own Liverpool people, chamber of commerce and our local companies  Liverpool is thriving yes we shave poor areas yes we have unemployment and food banks but much more now with Johnson’s government then we have ever had . Would I go back to live in uk never !!

John 52 wrote on Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:51am:

Morning  ,unfortunately  it's not one size fits all ,different people have different wants ,needs aspirations  ,unlike you I voted to leave ,not because I'm anti EU ,but I saw stagnation of wages purely due to the reliance of labour from EU member states ,companies were happy to em...

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...ploy people from certain countries on lower wages rather than use UK workers ,things will certainly not get any better under Boris Johnson  we now have national companies such as Clark's looking to use the fire and rehire situation  ,so much for levelling up ,shop workers were never overpaid 

BerylLFC wrote on Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:08am:

I had a company where I had to tender for work. All clients i tendered for instructed companies to use minimum wage. Many many times  I had trouble filling vacancies as people couldn’t survive on low wages they would lose to much in benefits. It’s the system that’s wrong a real living ...

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...wage is the only way forward ! 

Sue222 wrote on Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:10am:

I think that many of us seniors are worried about ill health and not having family/ good neighbors to look after us as is the Spanish way, not saying UK is much better but at least you can throw your selves on the mercy of family etc. My family want us to return as they worry that they can't help...

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... us from  afar should we need it. We are holding out here for as long as possible.. happy with the health care etc and cost of living., The council tax in the UK would be more than our fuel bills, SUMA here for a year.

BerylLFC wrote on Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:08am:

I had a company where I had to tender for work. All clients i tendered for instructed companies to use minimum wage. Many many times  I had trouble filling vacancies as people couldn’t survive on low wages they would lose to much in benefits. It’s the system that’s wrong a real living ...

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...wage is the only way forward ! 

swcoulthurst wrote on Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:34pm:

I do agree somewhat, but whilst I dont agree with the minimum wage level, many companies survive because of that system. If the wages rise, then their prices rise or price of products rise. Then the wages need to increase because of the rise in prices, then the circle never ends. When I had my co...

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...mpany , luckily I could afford to pay more than the minimum wage but I can understand that some companies couldn't afford to pay the difference from (under 23's) minimum wage £8.36 per hour to the real living wage £9.90 per hour. An extra £60 per week. 

Also as someone previously posted on reasons for returning home. I completely agree that returning to the UK can be purely down to the healthcare system. The care may be better here, I appreciate we live in Spain, but if you dont Speak Spanish (area dependent) there is no help whatsoever in translation when it may be extremely important. In the UK, if you dont speak English, a translator is provided. Also the worry of either you getting back to relatives, or them to you is now not quite as simple.

Before you all say 'people should speak Spanish'. We can be talking about OAP's who cannot speak the language.

Relyat wrote on Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:33pm:

I don't understand your "area dependent". 

Also, OAP or not, why should anyone not learn the language of the country in which have chosen to live? It smacks to me of arrogance. 

Martyn1986 wrote on Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:38pm:

Woman i help out is 70 and learnt spanish and is now better than most brits, age is just a number. As for hospitals if its something serious I guarantee a doctor will know without even asking you but I've found most hospitals have english speakers, but to be fair when it comes medical speaking, n...

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...o-one understands lol

Martyn1986 wrote on Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:38pm:

Woman i help out is 70 and learnt spanish and is now better than most brits, age is just a number. As for hospitals if its something serious I guarantee a doctor will know without even asking you but I've found most hospitals have english speakers, but to be fair when it comes medical speaking, n...

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...o-one understands lol