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jimtaylor wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:23am:

I was just disappointed that the other topic, where you were criticising Ray, was locked, and I was unable to post my own point of view.

I was going to agree wholeheartedly with Ray, Nicola and Simon, and tell Kim that recommendations on their own aren't enough, and that warnings should also be given about the bad traders. I was going to add as an example that John Cox, the pool man in La Marina, who is fully legal, gets pi**ed of...

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...f at the illegals who steal his potential business by being able to go in at lower prices, and then John gets called in to go and correct their mistakes. 

It may appear to be Brit bashing, but that's because it's the - usually illegal - Brits who take advantage of other Brits. OK, there are a lot of Spaniards and other nationalities who take advantage of innocent incomers, but it's the British ones that the majority of people on the forum are inclined to employ initially - until they learn better.

Sadly, it's just a fact of life, and I think people new to Spain need to be aware of the possibility of being ripped off or having shoddy work done. There are a lot of very good, and legal, British tradesmen out there, and it is they that people should seek to employ.

One suggestion to everyone - if you're thinking of employing a tradesman, tell him you'll want an IVA invoice.

jimtaylor wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:23am:

I was just disappointed that the other topic, where you were criticising Ray, was locked, and I was unable to post my own point of view.

I was going to agree wholeheartedly with Ray, Nicola and Simon, and tell Kim that recommendations on their own aren't enough, and that warnings should also be given about the bad traders. I was going to add as an example that John Cox, the pool man in La Marina, who is fully legal, gets pi**ed of...

Read more...

...f at the illegals who steal his potential business by being able to go in at lower prices, and then John gets called in to go and correct their mistakes. 

It may appear to be Brit bashing, but that's because it's the - usually illegal - Brits who take advantage of other Brits. OK, there are a lot of Spaniards and other nationalities who take advantage of innocent incomers, but it's the British ones that the majority of people on the forum are inclined to employ initially - until they learn better.

Sadly, it's just a fact of life, and I think people new to Spain need to be aware of the possibility of being ripped off or having shoddy work done. There are a lot of very good, and legal, British tradesmen out there, and it is they that people should seek to employ.

One suggestion to everyone - if you're thinking of employing a tradesman, tell him you'll want an IVA invoice.

jimtaylor wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:23am:

I was just disappointed that the other topic, where you were criticising Ray, was locked, and I was unable to post my own point of view.

I was going to agree wholeheartedly with Ray, Nicola and Simon, and tell Kim that recommendations on their own aren't enough, and that warnings should also be given about the bad traders. I was going to add as an example that John Cox, the pool man in La Marina, who is fully legal, gets pi**ed of...

Read more...

...f at the illegals who steal his potential business by being able to go in at lower prices, and then John gets called in to go and correct their mistakes. 

It may appear to be Brit bashing, but that's because it's the - usually illegal - Brits who take advantage of other Brits. OK, there are a lot of Spaniards and other nationalities who take advantage of innocent incomers, but it's the British ones that the majority of people on the forum are inclined to employ initially - until they learn better.

Sadly, it's just a fact of life, and I think people new to Spain need to be aware of the possibility of being ripped off or having shoddy work done. There are a lot of very good, and legal, British tradesmen out there, and it is they that people should seek to employ.

One suggestion to everyone - if you're thinking of employing a tradesman, tell him you'll want an IVA invoice.

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jimtaylor wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:23am:

I was just disappointed that the other topic, where you were criticising Ray, was locked, and I was unable to post my own point of view.

I was going to agree wholeheartedly with Ray, Nicola and Simon, and tell Kim that recommendations on their own aren't enough, and that warnings should also be given about the bad traders. I was going to add as an example that John Cox, the pool man in La Marina, who is fully legal, gets pi**ed of...

Read more...

...f at the illegals who steal his potential business by being able to go in at lower prices, and then John gets called in to go and correct their mistakes. 

It may appear to be Brit bashing, but that's because it's the - usually illegal - Brits who take advantage of other Brits. OK, there are a lot of Spaniards and other nationalities who take advantage of innocent incomers, but it's the British ones that the majority of people on the forum are inclined to employ initially - until they learn better.

Sadly, it's just a fact of life, and I think people new to Spain need to be aware of the possibility of being ripped off or having shoddy work done. There are a lot of very good, and legal, British tradesmen out there, and it is they that people should seek to employ.

One suggestion to everyone - if you're thinking of employing a tradesman, tell him you'll want an IVA invoice.

Trevor Tina wrote on Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:38pm:

Please be aware of this man a builder called STEPHEN READ he priced our kitchen up back in September and he seemed a very trustworthy man we were so wrong !!! We put half the price of the job in his bank account (silly you are now saying) but we no some builders do this in spain .....we never got...

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... the work done he wouldnt answer his phone for weeks then finally his girlfriend answered a text  promising he would get the work done as his father had passed away we were very sympathetic as we had 2 people pass away at that time as well.weeks went by still nothing he didnt answer the phone nor texes finally his girlfriend texed they would put our money back in the bank we still have not received it. Recently we have found out he he has  done this to another couple the same patern as i said lastt time STEPHEN REED you should be ashamed of your self how you sleep at night i do not no. 

Alex wrote on Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:40am:

Sorry you feel that way. I am sure there are many others that appreciate the tough work I have to do in keeping everything friendly on this forum. I am certain deep down you know that many times RayD's comments cross the line and also on occasion are completely unrelated to the topic in question ...

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...- nothing to do with the nationality element of his postings. I would not be doing my job if I do not step in and keep things on track.