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Income tax moving to Spain

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:04am
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Hi all, we are planning to move to Costa Blanca next year permanently.  Expect to move initially in Feb 23 with NLV.  I understand Spanish taxes can be a bit tricky and may need specialist input but just wondered if anyone had any advice in relation to following.  I intend to cease work end of Dec 22 and therefore no employment related income for the Spanish tax year 23/24. However it's possible that a tax free lump sum relating to my employment up to 22 could be paid shortly after I cease employment and taking into account Xmas and NY this could be paid in Jan 23.  My intention really is to be as honest as possible so question is could that lump sum if paid say 3,4 Jan 23 be liable for Spanish tax year 23/24 even though it relates to employment only up to 22.  Hope that makes sense and appreciate any advice.  Thanks.

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:22am

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:22am

Mobat wrote on Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:04am:

Hi all, we are planning to move to Costa Blanca next year permanently.  Expect to move initially in Feb 23 with NLV.  I understand Spanish taxes can be a bit tricky and may need specialist input but just wondered if anyone had any advice in relation to following.  I intend to cease...

... work end of Dec 22 and therefore no employment related income for the Spanish tax year 23/24. However it's possible that a tax free lump sum relating to my employment up to 22 could be paid shortly after I cease employment and taking into account Xmas and NY this could be paid in Jan 23.  My intention really is to be as honest as possible so question is could that lump sum if paid say 3,4 Jan 23 be liable for Spanish tax year 23/24 even though it relates to employment only up to 22.  Hope that makes sense and appreciate any advice.  Thanks.

The tax year in Spain is January 1st to December 31st. So anything that you class as income in that period will be taxed in that years tax, it doesn't matter when it was actually earned.

You do know about the Modelo 720 I'm assuming? 

Steve 

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:31am

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:31am

Steve is correct, even if it is paid to you on Jan 1st, 2023, it will be considered as part of your 2023 income, and taxed accordingly. Somewhere around the 20% mark or a bit more.

My advice is to check if there are any options to get it paid sooner or, if not and if you don't need it to purchase property for example, see if you can you leave it in the pension pot to have an enhanced pension.

Mobat

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:48am

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:48am

Herefordjack wrote on Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:31am:

Steve is correct, even if it is paid to you on Jan 1st, 2023, it will be considered as part of your 2023 income, and taxed accordingly. Somewhere around the 20% mark or a bit more.

My advice is to check if there are any options to get it paid sooner or, if not and if you don't need it to purchase property for example, see if you can you leave it in the pension pot to have an enhanced pension....

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Thanks for the feedback.  Yes aware of the Modelo Steve and my intention is to be fully honest when it comes to completing that but also want to minimise any complicating factors before it's required if I can. Think I will discuss with my employers when to cease work this year to ensure all final payments are made in 22 leaving me with a clean slate so to speak when completing the Modelo for 23/24 which should then just cover savings and pensions which will be all assets then I guess.  Thanks

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:02am

Mobat wrote on Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:48am:

Thanks for the feedback.  Yes aware of the Modelo Steve and my intention is to be fully honest when it comes to completing that but also want to minimise any complicating factors before it's required if I can. Think I will discuss with my employers when to cease work this year to ensure all ...

...final payments are made in 22 leaving me with a clean slate so to speak when completing the Modelo for 23/24 which should then just cover savings and pensions which will be all assets then I guess.  Thanks

Standard occupational pensions are not relevant for Modelo 720. The three asset classes are: bank and savings accounts, property, shares and similar securities.

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:10am

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:10am

Mobat wrote on Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:48am:

Thanks for the feedback.  Yes aware of the Modelo Steve and my intention is to be fully honest when it comes to completing that but also want to minimise any complicating factors before it's required if I can. Think I will discuss with my employers when to cease work this year to ensure all ...

...final payments are made in 22 leaving me with a clean slate so to speak when completing the Modelo for 23/24 which should then just cover savings and pensions which will be all assets then I guess.  Thanks

Hi Mobat,

Occupational pensions don't have to be reported on the Modelo 720 (Spain doesn't have an equivalent and the Agencia Tributaria still hasn't worked out how to classify them), but income derived from them must still be declared on the Modelo 100 tax return, so I think you're wise to have any proceeds paid to you before the end of this year.

Kind regards, 

Kim

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:15am

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In Spain tax on income received here between 1st January, 2022 to 31st December, 2022 is payable up to the beginning of June 2023, most often in the month of May.

You may find information on the Citizens Advice Bureau Spain website.

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:16am

Mobat wrote on Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:48am:

Thanks for the feedback.  Yes aware of the Modelo Steve and my intention is to be fully honest when it comes to completing that but also want to minimise any complicating factors before it's required if I can. Think I will discuss with my employers when to cease work this year to ensure all ...

...final payments are made in 22 leaving me with a clean slate so to speak when completing the Modelo for 23/24 which should then just cover savings and pensions which will be all assets then I guess.  Thanks

You wont have to pay any tax on a one off lump sum pension unless you are a resident in Spain before it is paid out.  Should that be the case than you wont be entitled to the 25% tax free but will be taxed on all of it at the rate of 21%.  You can however then claim any tax back paid to HMIC.

Best thing to do is get your payment first before applying for Residency.  As long as it doesnt exceed €50,000 then you'll be OK and wont need to declare it.

Mobat

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:46am

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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:46am

DEP003 wrote on Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:16am:

You wont have to pay any tax on a one off lump sum pension unless you are a resident in Spain before it is paid out.  Should that be the case than you wont be entitled to the 25% tax free but will be taxed on all of it at the rate of 21%.  You can however then claim any tax back paid to...

... HMIC.

Best thing to do is get your payment first before applying for Residency.  As long as it doesnt exceed €50,000 then you'll be OK and wont need to declare it.

Thanks for the feedback all.  Much appreciated and always good to hear from those living the system day to day.  

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