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aitchc1401

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:07pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:07pm

wtfamidoinghere wrote on Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:43pm:

You're on the right track. Diesel has a higher FLASH POINT, which is not a constant flame but a much higher temperature required in order to combust. And yes, the fire was caused by an EV.

Can you supply the link please that confirms the (Luton Airport Car Park) fire was started by a EV. All the reports I have seen blame the diesel vehicle but I may have missed something.

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:44pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:44pm

aitchc1401 wrote on Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:07pm:

Can you supply the link please that confirms the (Luton Airport Car Park) fire was started by a EV. All the reports I have seen blame the diesel vehicle but I may have missed something.

Rgds,

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Hmm...the story I read originally is no longer there, or at least I can't find it. I was actually there at the time and was due to fly back to Spain the next morning. That aside, and having worked for Lucas / CAV many years ago, I find it inconceivable that diesel can self-ignite. It needs atomisation AND around 260 degrees celcius to combust. The engine bay would need to be very hot - i.e: running - even for a short circuit to have any chance of igniting diesel. https://dieselfuelhq.com/will-diesel-ignite-with-heat/

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:39pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:39pm

wtfamidoinghere wrote on Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:44pm:

Hmm...the story I read originally is no longer there, or at least I can't find it. I was actually there at the time and was due to fly back to Spain the next morning. That aside, and having worked for Lucas / CAV many years ago, I find it inconceivable that diesel can self-ignite. It needs atomis...

...ation AND around 260 degrees celcius to combust. The engine bay would need to be very hot - i.e: running - even for a short circuit to have any chance of igniting diesel. https://dieselfuelhq.com/will-diesel-ignite-with-heat/

Attached is an interesting article I came across when looking again for articles linked to the Luton fire:

https://www.theautopian.com/the-strangest-thing-about-the-huge-fire-at-a-british-airport-parking-garage-is-how-people-reacted-to-it/

As pointed out in the article:

- strange how lots of people want to blame a EV

- diesel cars can catch fire due to other issues, i.e. electrical faults

Personally I don't believe the fire service would cover up the true cause of a fire, my thought is why would they? 

 I don't own a electric car but have looked at getting one. Not for me at the moment but I did'nt have any concerns about them catching fire. Electric scooters are another story though! 

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:24am

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:24am

If I could add my two penn'th to this discussion.  Diesel does not self combust and cannot be ignited without a degree of preheating. Drop a match into a bucket of diesel, it will go out.

I am firmly of the opinion the the fire was caused by an electric vehicle.  The video I saw from a fixed camera was far too intense for a diesel fire.

The fire service will say what the government tell them to say. An EV fire does not fit with their push to get everyone to buy an EV on the incorrect basis that they are good for the planet. They are NOT.  It is a total con.

I am not a conspiracy monger but I have seen enough rubbish put out by the government not only on EVs, but heat pumps, oil boilers, hydrogen boilers etc to convince me that they would not know the truth if it bit them.

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:41pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:41pm

Classic man wrote on Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:24am:

If I could add my two penn'th to this discussion.  Diesel does not self combust and cannot be ignited without a degree of preheating. Drop a match into a bucket of diesel, it will go out.

I am firmly of the opinion the the fire was caused by an electric vehicle.  The video I saw from a fixed camera was far too intense for a diesel fire....

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The fire service will say what the government tell them to say. An EV fire does not fit with their push to get everyone to buy an EV on the incorrect basis that they are good for the planet. They are NOT.  It is a total con.

I am not a conspiracy monger but I have seen enough rubbish put out by the government not only on EVs, but heat pumps, oil boilers, hydrogen boilers etc to convince me that they would not know the truth if it bit them.

Hi

    if you believe that the Bedfordshire chief fire officer would lie at the request of the government then do you also believe the fire brigade union would stand by and allow the cause of a fire to be changed at the request of the government?

 https://dieselfuelhq.com/can-diesel-catch-fire/

 If there was going to be some cover up why no just say it was a petrol powered car? 

 It's amazing to me that so many people are convinced that it was a EV that caught fire, why? I would happily believe it if there was some credible evidence, but I have not seen any.

As with a lot of misinformation I believe the root cause is probably social media, at a guess.

Rgds,

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