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Medical certificate for a non lucrative visa

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:52pm
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Kaiser

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Hello,

I will hopefully be relocating to Spain in the near future, I have communicated with a Lawyer in Spain and for the purpose of the Non lucrative visa he suggested when I come over for a visit I should obtain my medical certificate from a pharmacy in Spain as it Quite cheap and I wont need to get it translating into Spanish and save me some money as in England most of the GPs haven't heard of such a document as it only came into action post brexit. I have spoken to a private GP and the cost is £250.00 + Apostille stamp and translation into Spanish so the best part of £400. I wanted to know if anyone knew how much it cost for a medical certificate from a pharmacy in Spain,  I have tried the Lawyer I spoke to previous but he hasn't got back to me yet so wandered if anyone has an idea.

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marcliff

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:05pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:05pm

How would a pharmacy in Spain know your medical history? 

This is a copy of the medical certificate that is required

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/DocumentosAuxiliaresSC/Estados%20Unidos/LOS%20%C3%81NGELES%20%28C%29/Certificado%20Medico.pdf

I am not sure a pharmacist would be able to sign that and do all the necessary tests but the translation cost would be saved.

Kaiser

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:21pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:21pm

marcliff wrote on Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:05pm:

How would a pharmacy in Spain know your medical history? 

This is a copy of the medical certificate that is required

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/DocumentosAuxiliaresSC/Estados%20Unidos/LOS%20%C3%81NGELES%20%28C%29/Certificado%20Medico.pdf

I am not sure a pharmacist would be able to sign that and do all the necessary tests but the translation cost would be saved.

Hello Thanks for your reply, well I thought that but he said that he deals with lots of non lucrative visa applications and was very confident a medical certificate could be obtained from]m a pharmacy for the fraction of the price. I am coming over next month for a week and will be making an appointment at his offices get it sorted hopefully. When he gets back to me Ill let you know how he managed to arrange it. Thanks for your advice and the copy you attached.

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:08pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:08pm

Kaiser wrote on Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:21pm:

Hello Thanks for your reply, well I thought that but he said that he deals with lots of non lucrative visa applications and was very confident a medical certificate could be obtained from]m a pharmacy for the fraction of the price. I am coming over next month for a week and will be making an appo...

...intment at his offices get it sorted hopefully. When he gets back to me Ill let you know how he managed to arrange it. Thanks for your advice and the copy you attached.

I don't think any Farmacia in Spain would blindly issue medical certificates without you having a full medical check up by a doctor. 

Beware of any and all "help" offered by Spanish solicitors, they are only praying on your hopes and dreams and could end in very expensive sadness........

Steve 

Darro

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:09pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:09pm

I cannot see how such a thing could be in any way possible or legitimate, it would make a mockery of the whole concept of the certificate and conceivably could compromise your entire NLV application.

IMO you'd be stark raving mad to be  even considering it so don't do something you could come to regret for the sake of a few quid.

Do it right or don't do it at all!

And BTW you don't need a Spanish lawyer for an NLV, it's all dealt with at the UK Consulates. Your Spanish lawyer will doubtless be costing you far more than the certificate you're trying to avoid paying for!

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Kaiser

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:43pm

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:43pm

Darro wrote on Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:09pm:

I cannot see how such a thing could be in any way possible or legitimate, it would make a mockery of the whole concept of the certificate and conceivably could compromise your entire NLV application.

IMO you'd be stark raving mad to be  even considering it so don't do something you could come to regret for the sake of a few quid.
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Do it right or don't do it at all!

And BTW you don't need a Spanish lawyer for an NLV, it's all dealt with at the UK Consulates. Your Spanish lawyer will doubtless be costing you far more than the certificate you're trying to avoid paying for!

Cheers everyone for your advice, When I come over next month ill be in situation where I can find out myself, but I think you are all thinking the same as me too good to be true. Ill probably employ a legal representative to make sure all my paperwork is legal and correct before making a appointment at the consulate in Manchester. Your correct for the sake of £500 Id rather make sure its all sound. Thank you all

Darro

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:29am

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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:29am

You can employ a legal representative in UK, the consulate might even be able to give you a list of possible candidates. You're not the first to tread the path and in fact it would be interesting if you contacted them and asked about this claimed 'pharmacists certificate'. It sounds to me like something which needs getting out in the open before it turns into something like the fake padrons which certain people were producing and which led to dire consequences for otherwise innocent people who put their trust in professional people they believed worthy of it.

As tebo says, Spanish lawyers are more often interested in lining their own pockets than looking after clients best interests.

If your main purpose in coming over is to consult with the lawyer you're in contact with then I'd say save the money and use it instead to pay someone in UK and for the proper medical certificate.

Kaiser

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:14am

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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:14am

Darro wrote on Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:29am:

You can employ a legal representative in UK, the consulate might even be able to give you a list of possible candidates. You're not the first to tread the path and in fact it would be interesting if you contacted them and asked about this claimed 'pharmacists certificate'. It sounds to me like so...

...mething which needs getting out in the open before it turns into something like the fake padrons which certain people were producing and which led to dire consequences for otherwise innocent people who put their trust in professional people they believed worthy of it.

As tebo says, Spanish lawyers are more often interested in lining their own pockets than looking after clients best interests.

If your main purpose in coming over is to consult with the lawyer you're in contact with then I'd say save the money and use it instead to pay someone in UK and for the proper medical certificate.

Thanks lots to think about. Ill make some calls in the UK. Thanks once again 

Kimmy11

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:23am

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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:23am

Hi Kaiser,

Babelia is the non-profit association that the UK Government appointed to assist UK citizens applying for Withdrawal Agreement residency:

https://asociacionbabelia.org/en/uk-nationals/

Whilst this doesn't apply to your own situation, Babelia do mention the Medical Certificate on their website, in relation to applications for the Non Lucrative Visa:

https://asociacionbabelia.org/en/applying-for-residency-in-spain-under-the-immigration-general-regime-for-uk-nationals-and-family-members/

So it may be worth sending them an email to find out whether it's possible to obtain the medical certificate from a Spanish pharmacy.  Personally, I think it highly unlikely; from memory, members who have made their own NLV applications, obtained their certificates via their GP in the UK.  If you haven´t already seen the forum guide, this link may provide other useful information for you:

How to apply for a Non-Lucrative visa (NLV)

Kind regards,

Kim

Jay1947

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:32pm

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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:32pm

A friend of a friend was advised by her abogado to submit a medical certificate suppled by Torrevieja hospital. Their NLV application was rejected by the Manchester consulate on the grounds of non acceptable medical certificate. 

Apparently these types of certificate are accepted by the London consulate but I have no knowledge if this is the case. It is said the different consulates have different interpretations. 

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