Very Noisy Little Airplane! - Page 2

RayD - I don't think it's at all incongruous because it's nothing to do with being British. It's about being a householder or resident or  Spanish citizen who is unhappy with the increase in noise disturbance. It applies to everyone who would prefer peace.

PeteKnight - you may be right. The Spanish military may be entitled to make as much noise as they want, wherever they want, as often as they want and for as long as they want. Then again they may not. It is worth pursuing to see whether there is some compromise possible.

Is this something our local councillor(s) would be able to assist with? Does anyone have contact details for whoever represents this area?

There is ways and means to approach the military regarding something like this.. not all official and certainly not having a NIMBY approach.... trust me, I’ve a little bit of experience on that front.

Going in all guns blazing may just having them train a little harder a little more often.

Actually they are ANAER T-35s - a Chilean manufacturer. And I love watching them.

Yeah. Good innit! As a private pilot I do realise that there are always one or two people who object to engine noise, but ....hey ho.

I´d rather watch that, than hear 2-stroke moto´s & 4-stroke´s copying them in our town & village´s streets, but......live & let live. 

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I understand the reasons for not having training flights over water, but where they fly now over large urbanisations if anything went wrong with these training flights and they came down over a populated area gives me the shudders at the devastation this could cause.

I agree with this. The Rules of The Air state that no aerobatics should be performed over a built up area. I can only think that in Spain, there might be exemptions for the military. Maybe someone can clarify that. I suppose that, at the end of the day, IF there was a problem (engine failure), at the height they operate (i think in excess of 3000´) they have plenty of glide distance available so would most likely ditch in the sea (as happened a few weeks ago, but sadly the pilots did not survive).

Yes, that's just what I find about forums - the main responses are all from those with a contrary viewpoint. It's those who love to disagree, especially counterintuitively, who pipe up. Here we have a noise disturbance for a large part of each day - and most responses are in favour of it. Good innit? Oh yeah, I love noise, me, can't stand peace and quiet, turn up that radio someone, hope they fly more of those planes, not remotely noisy, can't get enough of it, me.

This forum has not been useful. Adios amigos.

Sorry but stall recovery, rolls, loops and simulated engine failure ARE classified as aerobatics.