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K100

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:30pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:30pm

If it's resistant to glyphosate it is a GMO crop and designed to be resistant to herbicides. It will still take up the glyphosate but like all GMO crops it will survive. If it's being fed to animals the meat and milk from those animals will contain glyphosate. There is no safe limit to exposure: 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969717330279 

Tony11

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:45pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:45pm

It's painfully obvious to me that one or two of you have got too much time on you hands.

It is just not normal for sane people to become so obsessive about a weed killer for Christ's sake. That woman is totally off her trolley and K100 needs to lighten up and begin to enjoy life in Spain or take his ranting back to the USA and start his class action.

What a saddo.

If this is a cross section of the quality of correspondence on this forum, I'm glad I'll soon be going home. The sun has got to your heads.

Good bye.

K100

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:49pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:49pm

No need for this abuse: Idid not raise the topic of Round Up - I merely responded to it.

Those in favour of using toxic chemicals for weed killing are the problem - Promoting their view regardless of the risks to others.  The rest of the world agrees that Round Up is toxic to humans.

Glyphosate is Now Banned in Austria, banned in Sydney Australia and soon to be 'a thing of the past' in Germany according to Angela Merckel. 

What's 'sad' is that Round Up fans on the forum respond with trolling insults and tell contributors to go back to America - simply because you can't handle the truth.  What you want is the freedom to continue spraying a toxic product, which we all know is effective at killing weeds but carries the risk of cancer,  not just for the user but for their neighbours, pets and children. This sort of xenophobia and careless disregard has no place on a forum like this. Contributors should not have to fear personal attacks just by offering information that most intelligent people would be glad to hear.

It's time to admit your trolling is inappropriate and to take your racism and abuse elsewhere. We are all neighbours and most of us appreciate the information we receive - especially when it is well researched and health related.

So to all the Round Up trolls - Please take the time to reflect - a little respect and consideration goes a long way.  No doubt you will now be stocking up on Round Up in anticipation of the ban.  For that reason I'm sure the sane people among us are all hoping  we aren't living next door to you.. Now you can 'lighten up' - but please be sure to keep us all updated on your continued robust good health.

https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/glyphosate-ban/?utm_campaign=live-event-2019&utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily-content-ttac&utm_content=glyphosate-ban&a_aid=5a84a1f683718&mpweb=144-8130720-744168658

Villas

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:09pm

Villas

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:09pm

For K100 or anyone?

RE: K100 (without the UK colonials jajaja)!

I certainly don´t want people to fight! And get all wound-up! But:

Just a warning re Round Up Monsanto/Bayer are currently facing another 1300 law suits. This is actually the brand name for a chemical called glyphosate and it is known to be carcinogenic. Only because I have over 5 years (as yet published, except by a few people of the forum here, concerning also pesticides, & 2 have responded to me. It´s bear to mind & not only concerning insecticides, but mainly pesticides.

Refer to:

Bayer AG a German pharmaceutical company and one of the largest in the world. Headquartered where its illuminated corporate logo, the Bayer cross, is a landmark, Bayer's areas of business include human and veterinary pharmaceuticals; consumer healthcare products; agricultural chemicals, seeds and biotechnology products.

Founded in 1863 factory, Bayer's first and best-known product was aspirin & heroine the drug diacetylmorphine and marketed it as a cough suppressant. & used antibiotic and the subject of the 1939 Nobel Prize in Medicine; the antibiotic Cipro. & birth control pills.

In 1925 Bayer was one of six chemical companies that merged to form the world's largest chemical and pharmaceutical company. The Nazi war effort and involvement in the holocaust, which included using slave labour from concentration camps & gas chemical chambers. In 1951, then split again into three: BASF, Bayer and Hoechst.

Bayer played a key role in the in post-war West Germany, quickly regaining its position as one of the world's largest chemical and pharmaceutical corporations. I mention this only worth reading for people interested in Spain in particular. (& of course the USA).

https://andreas.faber.cat/articulos/denuncia/sindrome-toxico/ (“Silent Pact”)

A gentleman sadly deceased last year: Woffinden, Bob (August 25, 2001) The Guardian. London. Retrieved December 2,2016. & helped me with my research.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2001/aug/25/research.highereducation

Also (again, If anyone wishes a copy by e-mail) feel free. It´s free.

I only mention with regards to the subject in question, is Don´´t all believe the W.H.O. (world health organisation) & “think” all is safe. This is my abridged version. Book at anyone interested, PM for a copy.

Villas


K100

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:39am

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:39am

Thank God there is someone sensible out there - I was beginning to think I'd stepped into an alternative dimension...

Villas - I just hope you don't now have the trolls descending on you - accusing you of 'cherry picking' your research. The Spanish tragedy deserves thorough and respectful investigation - the truth has a way of surfacing - even years later.

I agree with everything you've posted re Bayer - it would be naive to assume they were interested in anything other than profit and maintaining their dominance in the market.

Vietnam have also banned Glyphosate - unsurprisingly considering their experience with agent orange.

Who could have imagined a simple post on the dangers of a chemical herbicide could lead to the exposure of such rampant racism against Americans. I don't for a moment believe the majority members here support this type of behaviour - but it certainly wasn't a pleasant experience. 

I very much appreciate your input on this topic and I'm confident others will too.

Kind regards

K100

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K100

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:18am

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:18am

Starfox  - Here we go again - Do you really want me to educate you on this? 

First - Let's examine the source of your research - Vaxopedia? Are you serious? Where is your supporting evidence - from a credible source? 

Let's begin: Autism rates have risen from 1 in 10 000 in the US (and UK) to 1 in 32 in the most vaccinated US states. In the UK where vaccinations do not reach the dizzy heights  (yet) of 59 before the age of 5 the autism rate is around 1 in 100. If Seneff can do anything she can analysis statistics - 30 years at MIT attests to that.  Her first MIT degree was in Biology - Perhaps yours is too?

In the US where even adults are forced to vaccinate under the rule of 'No Jabs - No Jobs' the rates of autoimmune disease, cancers, autism and chronic illness have increased exponentially.  Currently 54% of American school leavers have a chronic illness and are on medication. None of these vaccines are 'free'. Parents pay for them generating  over $30 Billion p.a. in profits for the vaccine manufacturers. But vaccine are 'safe and effective' I hear you cry - only they are not. These parents can explain why better than I can - but be warned - before you dive into this particular rabbit hole I will reveal this is a research area where I have several years of full-time study. I promise to be gentle and polite at all times - can you?

Let the mothers explain about vaccines - read their stories then we can move on to  why Robert F Kennedy Jnr, Del Bigtree, Stephanie Seneff, Suzanne Humphries and many others' work is so important. We are still talking about Pharmaceutical Companies and their commitment to profit before people -  prepare to be informed: let's make it real:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/VaccineInjuryStories/
K100

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:38am

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:38am

Starfox - Are these references all pseudo science too? Are you a scientist? I'd love to have your opinion on the following once you've taken the time to read them of course.

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1. Swanson NL, Leu A, Abrahamson J, Wallet B. Genetically engineered crops, glyphosate and the deterioration of health in the United States of America.Journal of Organic Systems2014; 9(2):6-37.
2. Beecham J, Seneff S. The possible link between autism and glyphosate acting as glycine mimetic – a review of evidence from the literature with analysis.J Mol Genet Med2015; 9:4.
3. Newman MM, Lorenz N, Hoilett N, Lee NR, Dick RP, Liles MR, Ramsier C, Kloepper JW. Changes in rhizosphere bacterial gene expression following glyphosate treatment.Sci Total Environ2016; 553:32-41.
4. Padgette SR, Re DB, Gasser CS, Eichholtz DA, Frazier RB, Hironaka CM, Levine EB, Shah DM, Fraley RT, Kishore GM. Site-directed mutagenesis of a conserved region of the 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate synthase active site.J Biol Chem. 1991;266(33):22364-9.
5. Eschenburg S, Healy ML, Priestman MA, Lushington GH, Schonbrunn E. How the mutation glycine 96 to alanine confers glyphosate insensitivity to 5-enolpyruvyl shikimate-3-phosphate synthase from Escherichia coli.Planta2002; 216:129-135.
6. Funke T, Han H, Healy-Fried ML, Fischer M, Schönbrunn E. Molecular basis for the herbicide resistance of Roundup Ready crops.PNAS2006;103(35):13010-13015.
7. Rodgers KJ, Shiozawa N. Misincorporation of amino acid analogues into proteins by biosynthesis.Int J Biochem Cell Biol2008; 40(8):1452066.
8. Seneff S, Morley W, Hadden MJ, Michener MC. Does glyphosate acting as a glycine analogue contribute to ALS?J Bioinfo ProteomicsRev 2016: 2(3):1-21.
9. Krakauer J, Long Y, Kolbert A, Thanedar S, Southard J. Presence of L-canavanine in Hedysarum alpinum seeds and its potential role in the death of Chris McCandless.Wilderness & Environmental Medicine2015;26: 36-42.
10. Samsel A, Seneff S. Glyphosate, pathways to modern diseases V: Amino acid analogue of glycine in diverse proteins.Journal of Biological Physics and Chemistry2016;16:9-46.
11. Maxwell JC. The prescription drug epidemic in the United States: A perfect storm.Drug and Alcohol Review2011;30(3):264-270.
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K100

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:02am

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:02am

When the trolls keep trolling they eat a little bit of everyone's soul... I'll take your reponse as an admission of your acceptance of the facts and an apology. Let the nations now be at peace.

Classic man

Posted: Sun Oct 2, 2022 4:34pm

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Posted: Sun Oct 2, 2022 4:34pm

I think I detect the hands of a number of people in the Sax area that spend all their time on the net "Researching" as they like to put it, articles put about by the multiple quack advisers in America who all have an axe to grind.

If you care to take a look back at the Covid time you will find that most of the anti vaccine ranting came from just 12 individuals in the States who managed to get the ear of the US press.because of their connections.  Robert Kennedy is one of them.

If you are going to do "research", which appears to take up an awful lot of your time, please use credible sources.

Having said that I still have a garden full of these damned weeds.Which was the original issue in the first place.before my post got hijacked by phoney 'researchers'.

 Nothing I have tried so far has offered a permanent solution and that includes a Roundup equivalent and yes, I understand it can be harmful. So the next move is to up the salt content and keep trying. As it's a gravel area it won't do much harm. 

Meantime I shall continue with my whack-a-mole campaign.  Pull one up and another appears behind you.  I was always told that one year's seed equals seven year's weed.  I can confirm that!!

You might enjoy this:  https://news.sky.com/story/two-thirds-of-anti-vax-propaganda-online-created-by-just-12-influencers-research-finds-12521910

Then you make up your own mind.  The world's population did NOT die because of the vaccine, indeed it saved millions of lives.  No doubt our sad researcher will deny this.

andrew armuna

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:50pm

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