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New rule re: Spanish Healthcare under Withdrawal agreement

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:35pm
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Bill11

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General discussion - is the following Information correct?

This situation may well apply to some people currently seeking residency and those still to apply:

As a current UK resident I understand that you can still apply for a TIE under the withdrawal agreement (WA) if you can prove that you were living here prior to the end of December 2020, have sufficient financial means to support yourself and arrange for immediate private healthcare if below retirement age (no S1).

However, I have been informed that recent changes by the Spanish Government have somewhat muddied the waters re: healthcare. New applicants for a TIE under the WA must provide all the normal requirements under the Withdrawal Agreement plus they must now have had their private healthcare in place and paid for fully prior to end of December 2020.

Does anyone know if this new requirement is correct or not and if it’s nationwide?

Thanks

Kelvin1960

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:49pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:49pm

Yes.

That was always my understanding ... that the obligation was (and still is) to demonstrate that you met the pre-Brexit Residency conditions as at end December 2020. The extension period is for admin (due to Covid), not for meeting the conditions. 

Those conditions included ...

- healthcare, fully paid up for a year

- income requirements

- demonstration of actual Residence for 3 months, by means of a transaction-level bank statement (showing normal day-to-day expenditures, groceries, petrol, etc. - the evidence of normal living)

- a lease or deeds for a home.

The above are the conditions that we had to meet when we were granted Residency in 2018.  

There was always debate about the need for Padrons. FWIW, we had Padrons, and the authorities wanted to see them.

Bill11

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 4:35pm

Bill11

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Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 4:35pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:49pm:

Yes.

That was always my understanding ... that the obligation was (and still is) to demonstrate that you met the pre-Brexit Residency conditions as at end December 2020. The extension period is for admin (due to Covid), not for meeting the conditions. 

Those conditions included ...

- healthcare, fully paid up for a year

- income requirements

- demonstration of actual Residence for 3 months, by means of a transaction-level bank statement (showing normal day-to-day expenditures, groceries, petrol, etc. - the evidence of normal living)

- a lease or deeds for a home.

The above are the conditions that we had to meet when we were granted Residency in 2018.  

There was always debate about the need for Padrons. FWIW, we had Padrons, and the authorities wanted to see them.

Thanks for this Kelvin1960.

Appreciate the response.

My main reason for posting was that I had been informed (by a reliable source) that the Healthcare requirements (private healthcare has to be in place & paid for) had been amended in April 21 by the Government and that they were now to be backdated to prior to end of Dec 20 and not at the time (or just before) you applied for the TIE.

PeterPan

Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:06pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:06pm

Bill11 wrote on Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:35pm:

General discussion - is the following Information correct?

This situation may well apply to some people currently seeking residency and those still to apply:

As a current UK resident I understand that you can still apply for a TIE under the withdrawal agreement (WA) if you can prove that you were living here prior to the end of December 2020, have sufficient financial means to support yourself and arrange for immediate private healthcare if below retirement age (no S1).

However, I have been informed that recent changes by the Spanish Government have somewhat muddied the waters re: healthcare. New applicants for a TIE under the WA must provide all the normal requirements under the Withdrawal Agreement plus they must now have had their private healthcare in place and paid for fully prior to end of December 2020.

Does anyone know if this new requirement is correct or not and if it’s nationwide?

Thanks

To apply for residency under the WA  you had to be legally resident in Spain prior to 31st December 2020. Healthcare provision, private or S1, is/was required to be legally resident. 

If you had no access to healthcare then you weren't legally resident.

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