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We are buying a property on Camposol. Our solicitor is struggling to locate a habitation certificate on the villa. We are being told that this is normal on Camposol. Any info would be nice. Plus can you get a habitation cert now or must this be done when the property is first sold.

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:27pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:27pm

Hello, not enough information. What have you purchased?, Villa with land? How much land? Rustic or Urban? Next to another property? cesspit or up to date Septic tank? Area's vary ie, 10 year habitation cert renewable. (Which is only really any use for resale value or Town Hall use/legality) However there is a way around the whole process, one may apply for a 2nd occupancy cert even if the first was not issued. To reiterate, I would need to know the area of land, build size of property, cesspit or septic tank, water course distance from your property re; run off pipes/drainage from the tank. Year property was built. Secondly dump your Solicitor they are useless. R.

noz

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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:56pm

Rumpelstiltskin wrote on Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:27pm:

Hello, not enough information. What have you purchased?, Villa with land? How much land? Rustic or Urban? Next to another property? cesspit or up to date Septic tank? Area's vary ie, 10 year habitation cert renewable. (Which is only really any use for resale value or Town Hall use/legality) Howev...

...er there is a way around the whole process, one may apply for a 2nd occupancy cert even if the first was not issued. To reiterate, I would need to know the area of land, build size of property, cesspit or septic tank, water course distance from your property re; run off pipes/drainage from the tank. Year property was built. Secondly dump your Solicitor they are useless. R.

build size78m plot size 450m on sector B Camposol urbanisation mains sewage.

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This link explains how to obtain a certificate if you cannot find one at the minute. It qualifies what Rumpelstiltskin has explained in their post. Reading the contents It looks as though your solicitor isn't of much use. 

https://www.abacoadvisers.com/buying-in-spain/habitation-certificate-in-spain

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Jay1947

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:10pm

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Take care buying on Camposol. I understand that habitation certificates are not available for most ofthese houses. They are prefabricated and some are built illegally.

Basically Masa ripped off many people on the urbanisation. There were even reports that some properties had never had purchaser details amended at the land registry after purchase. This meant that when Masa went into liquidation there were great problems for the purchaser. Take great care and make sure you have a really good solicitor. 

Research on the internet will bring up information. Phases C and D seem to be the areas most affected by subsidence. 

When we lived in Murcia we were very near Camposol so do know the area well. Properties are a good price for a reason. 

If you need the name of a good solicitor I can give you the name of an excellent solicitor in Puerto de Mazzaron. You can contact me my by private message if you wish.

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:09pm

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Jay1947 wrote on Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:10pm:

Take care buying on Camposol. I understand that habitation certificates are not available for most ofthese houses. They are prefabricated and some are built illegally.

Basically Masa ripped off many people on the urbanisation. There were even reports that some properties had never had pur...

...chaser details amended at the land registry after purchase. This meant that when Masa went into liquidation there were great problems for the purchaser. Take great care and make sure you have a really good solicitor. 

Research on the internet will bring up information. Phases C and D seem to be the areas most affected by subsidence. 

When we lived in Murcia we were very near Camposol so do know the area well. Properties are a good price for a reason. 

If you need the name of a good solicitor I can give you the name of an excellent solicitor in Puerto de Mazzaron. You can contact me my by private message if you wish.

Good post Jay.  

We also looked at Camposol, Sector A.  We didn't like it and then we learned of the problems with the other sectors.  Personally, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.  The properties are cheap for a reason.

Davebev1

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:47pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:47pm

Camposol is quite a way from Rojales (the location you have used), its location is well outside Costa Blanca, being south of Cartagena in Murcia.  Some parts of Camposol are legal, other sectors are not.  Some areas of Camposol suffer serious flooding when there is heavy rain.  So if there isn't a habitation certificate it may be that the property was never built with a license as a dwelling so never had one issued, just a prefab building on a concrete slab classed as a temporary tourist dwelling (no more than a cabin or static home).  Quite a few have suffered subsidence problems due to the lack of proper foundations, so don't meet earthquake standards required for permanent homes, and various other problems, including leaks when it rains.  So take care. My understanding is that C & D sections have the worst issues and are not recognised as legal homes but other sectors have problems too. I would recommend googling 'problems on Camposol, Murcia'.  you may find this article interesting https://www.solicitorsinspain.com/articles/buying-property-camposol-spain

Jay1947

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:35pm

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Kimmy11 wrote on Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:09pm:

Good post Jay.  

We also looked at Camposol, Sector A.  We didn't like it and then we learned of the problems with the other sectors.  Personally, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.  The properties are cheap for a reason.

We also went to look when the project was first starting on Sector A. There were only a couple of show homes to see but somethibg about it did not appeal to us. We finally had a house built in the campo about 10 minutes away. Only moved as we were getting too old to lok after the garden properly. 

I do not think any properties on Camposol have a certificate of habitation. Some on C were built illegally in the rambla and as the soil they used to fill the rambla was not solid it was gradually washed away and the land subsided. We have actually seen some of the results so this not hearsay.. Obviously the property OP is buying will not be like that but personally I would never buy there.

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