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marcliff

Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:32pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:32pm

jorge1306 wrote on Sun Feb 5, 2023 1:21pm:

Hysterical poppycock..had a downstairs property for 20 years in el chaparral pre and post brexit occupied/ unoccupied ..never had one issue at all..you hear of the odd break in ..gassing people is simply nonsense ...anyway in England they break in ..attack you ..hurt you and do other unspeakable ...

...acts ..that simply is unheard of here ...bonkers nonsense

The thing is, it depends on if you've been affected in any way or not. It's a perception that crime is rife if you are one of the unlucky ones who've been a victim. If you haven't you think it's nice and safe.

UK I lived in a small village but had my garage broken into twice, my garden shed 3 times and my house once when we were away. Looking at the crime reports in that little village and there are more crimes reported per week than there are in Quesada in a quarter. Yes, we have had a couple of breakins on our community. One was a cleaner who jammed open a door to the garages allowing the crims to come in. Another was someone who was sunbathing in their front garden and left the sliding windows open in the back. 

Like those getting robbed in supermarkets (or any shop) seems to be carelessness or a crime of opportunity. You have to be on your guard and don't leave your brain on the plane. Sad state of affairs nowadays everywhere, I'm afraid, especially with the amount of illegals in every country. 

Mrmike

Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 6:36pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 6:36pm

marcliff wrote on Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:32pm:

The thing is, it depends on if you've been affected in any way or not. It's a perception that crime is rife if you are one of the unlucky ones who've been a victim. If you haven't you think it's nice and safe.

UK I lived in a small village but had my garage broken into twice, my garden shed 3 times and my house once when we were away. Looking at the crime reports in that little village and there are more crimes reported per week than there are in Quesada in a quarter. Yes, we have had a couple of break...

...ins on our community. One was a cleaner who jammed open a door to the garages allowing the crims to come in. Another was someone who was sunbathing in their front garden and left the sliding windows open in the back. 

Like those getting robbed in supermarkets (or any shop) seems to be carelessness or a crime of opportunity. You have to be on your guard and don't leave your brain on the plane. Sad state of affairs nowadays everywhere, I'm afraid, especially with the amount of illegals in every country. 

We had a Pizzeria in Benalmadena along the main drag. In the first few months  a couple of customers a month had stuff stolen, handbags mainly. We managed to work out who the people doing it were and their methods and refused them entry. After that we had no problems. I worked in E.Europe for a few years and petty crime was rife along with police collusion.

Robbie73

Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:16pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:16pm

jorge1306 wrote on Sun Feb 5, 2023 1:21pm:

Hysterical poppycock..had a downstairs property for 20 years in el chaparral pre and post brexit occupied/ unoccupied ..never had one issue at all..you hear of the odd break in ..gassing people is simply nonsense ...anyway in England they break in ..attack you ..hurt you and do other unspeakable ...

...acts ..that simply is unheard of here ...bonkers nonsense

I totally agree with your comments.

Kasi

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:58am

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Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:58am

Hello everyone, 

Is it any way to prevent that terrible situations?  Is it mainly ground floor properties break in? Are the metal grids in windows enough protection or they forced the door?Noone can hear that if is a block to call the police? Just a few question going through my mind.

Best Regards,

Kate

Care4

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:48pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:48pm

jorge1306 wrote on Sun Feb 5, 2023 1:21pm:

Hysterical poppycock..had a downstairs property for 20 years in el chaparral pre and post brexit occupied/ unoccupied ..never had one issue at all..you hear of the odd break in ..gassing people is simply nonsense ...anyway in England they break in ..attack you ..hurt you and do other unspeakable ...

...acts ..that simply is unheard of here ...bonkers nonsense

Jorge1306. I can't supply the link to the story, but I remember a few years back that there was a story in the local free  Costa Blanca newspaper of an elderly couple whose house had been broken into. They had been subjected to violence within their home. Both had been placed in sacks and thrown into a reservior. Someone passing had seen movement in a sack and alerted the police. The wife was saved but the husband perished. I believe the perpetrators were identified as Romanian. I don't know if this was a long standing disagreement, a planned or opportuistic robbery or if those involved were identified by their wealth. What I believe it does confirm is that those who wish to live off the assets of others will attempt to do so, no matter which region or country they live in. Spain, like every other country, is home to these types of people. It's clear that those who have least to lose have the most to gain. In saying this I do not want to demonise those less fortunate than others.

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Care4

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 7:04pm

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tebo53 wrote on Sat Feb 6, 2021 6:03pm:

It's a common fallacy that crops up now and then that these gassings take place to rob people whilst they are in their beds....

I've never actually read or heard anything about anyone getting robbed in this way. 

I looked up the crime rates recently for the Costa Blanca and Torrevieja and Benidorm were the top two. Here in Benidorm the crimes that add up are mainly theft from tourist areas including pickpockets and handbag/phone theft. Prostitution and the "Pea men" are very much a problem too.

More problems are starting to rise with squatters entering vacant property and holiday homes. Its extremely difficult to evict squatters who have families and this is putting some buyers off. That problem would be worth looking into further.....

Steve 

tebo53 You quote crime figures for Costa Blanca, Torrivieja and Benidorm asserting that they represent, would it be fair to say "minor crimes"? I have found, for myself and others, that the present situation on the Costas is that the police require all those reporting a crime are accompanied by a fluent spanish speaker. My house was broken into while we slept and a number of lower value items were stolen. Our home, and our security had been violated. I transcribed our statements of the crime into Spanish and went to the Guardia Civil office in Pila de la Horadada. I was told that they required a fluent Spanish speaker be present so that they could fill in their reports. I was not prepared to spend a significant amount on this, so the crime went unreported. I have found many others who have been faced with this situation with the same outcome. This should cast doubt on the crime figures.

Shannon2020

Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 7:29pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 6, 2023 7:29pm

Care4 wrote on Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:37am:

DeaninSpain, was that so they couldn't point the finger at them?

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Miskelly

Posted: Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:06pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:06pm

We had a holiday home in Torrevieja, were broken into twice, had a hit and run where our car was badly damaged, TG nobody injured, this happened outside our house! Police were called, driver was high on drugs, was put in cell overnight, started to threaten us when discharged, was warned by police and I believe was deported! A murder took place very close by this was when we decided to sell….. after just 3 years, not the place we wanted to be. This was our experience, I’m sure many people live there happily without incidents. 

Gerry1

Posted: Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:25pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:25pm

Miskelly wrote on Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:06pm:

We had a holiday home in Torrevieja, were broken into twice, had a hit and run where our car was badly damaged, TG nobody injured, this happened outside our house! Police were called, driver was high on drugs, was put in cell overnight, started to threaten us when discharged, was warned by police...

... and I believe was deported! A murder took place very close by this was when we decided to sell….. after just 3 years, not the place we wanted to be. This was our experience, I’m sure many people live there happily without incidents. 

Sorry to hear about  your experience in torrevieja, as I posted recently  thank god I have never encountered anything like this and I am here over 20 years.

Robbie73

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:35am

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Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:35am

Miskelly wrote on Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:06pm:

We had a holiday home in Torrevieja, were broken into twice, had a hit and run where our car was badly damaged, TG nobody injured, this happened outside our house! Police were called, driver was high on drugs, was put in cell overnight, started to threaten us when discharged, was warned by police...

... and I believe was deported! A murder took place very close by this was when we decided to sell….. after just 3 years, not the place we wanted to be. This was our experience, I’m sure many people live there happily without incidents. 

We have lived here in Torrevieja for 9 years,with absolutely no problems,and we don't know anyone who has.

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