Shortage of vaccines in EU - Page 5

A quick google would probably provide a better description than I could. That said, if you extend the “we’re ahead of you in vaccines” argument to what’s actually happening to people who get sick, it’s fairly unedifying. Personally I wouldn’t want that happening to anyone, without regard to nationality.  (Even worse is the fact that we in the wealthier parts hoard excessive vaccines while vulnerable countries have none, but that’s a separate issue) There is also the practical issue that for Covid, with the risk of variants developing, we are literally all in it together, and only as strong as our weakest link. It won’t matter who has the most vaccines done if a worse variant develops in a place that is “behind” them. 

Terryoneone posted: ["research reveals that in June 2016......exchange rate was in fact 1-22 not the lofty figures you were quoting"]

Terry, the figures Immediate prior months(June 2016): GBP-EUR 1.43 (approx) referred to facts. I read them, (not wrote or invented them). In simple terms, I reiterate, I quoted: 

"The Pound fell 16% against the Euro in the 4 months following the Brexit referendum, including 6% on the actual day of the result.

The rate has yet to rebound to pre-Brexit levels." See link:

https://www.keycurrency.co.uk/GBPtoEuro

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LOL meant James and Villa/s 

Hi,

The uk govt did in fact recognise that poorer nations would struggle to get the vaccine and has promised vaccines to those said poorer nations, unfortunately they didn’t include the EU . 

They did also recognise that it’s no good having only a few countries vaccinated as this is a global issue.

Whilst on the the topic of nationalism I’ll point out that the Oxford vaccine is sold at cost, making it affordable for all countries, they EU to date have failed to provide a usable vaccine whilst criticising the Oxford one.

Macron,merkel and whoevers in charge today in Italy all claiming the uk vaccine doesn’t work a totally ridiculous thing to say after the EU approval...

I’m happy to agree to disagree 

Terry

If you look at my replies, you will see that I did not single out the U.K. as being different from or exceptional to others. The league tables of deaths or vaccinations as a means of one-upmanship are not solely down to British people. It just happened that you were the most recent exponent on this thread. 

A national governments first responsibility is to their own residents, thereafter they have a wider responsibility to the rest of the world, starting with the most needy. This is how the UK government's vaccination.policy is being conducted and I would not expect it to be any different. European countries, including the UK, have been the most vocal in proposals to help poorer countries.. 

Rgds,

Aitch.

That’s probably true- which is why I think organisations beyond national governments should provide leadership. The WHO’s programme is slow, but hopefully it will ramp up quickly. Wealthy nations, however, could provide more leadership to ensure that global issues are prioritised at an earlier stage. In my opinion the current model (vaccines to the wealthy first, then what’s left hopefully redistributed) does not serve anyone well ethically or epidemiologically. 

Reported today that the UK is having a "quiet" week with vaccinations due to a shortage of supply? 

There is a global initiative in place to provide vaccinations to all countries, take a look at

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/covax-explained 

To be honest I do not know to much about Covax but as stated in the link the WHO are involved in the management.

Rgds,

Aitch.

I don’t live in Torrevieja. I live in Northern Ireland and John Lewis and others are still not delivering to us. It’s a positive disgrace how we are being treated. 

In answer to your question , no. We are part of the United Kingdom and I am talking about not getting deliveries from mainland U.K.  not the EU.  I have had several deliveries from Italy with absolutely no problem and they are in the EU.  Amazon, John Lewis, TKMaxx  and many others aren’t delivering to us because they have to jump through all sorts of bureaucracy with import: customs which are totally unnecessary but demanded by this protocol which was set up by the EU.

I’m sorry but it’s clear that the EU is taking great pleasure in punishing us for daring to leave the union. Most people aren’t even aware of the situation but believe me, it’s a fact. I love to shop online and to find something that appeals to me and then see that they won’t deliver to NI makes me want to scream but there’s nothing we can do. We are stuck and have to suck it up. The unionist parties are trying to sort it out but the whole thing has suddenly turned into a political row. You people who live on the mainland are blessed !  We are living in the dark ages when it comes to politics and yet we live in the most beautiful country and floundering like a boat without a rudder.