Looks like someone has petitioned the EU about the Spanish squatter situation but I imagine it will take years and probably not succeed (but who knows!).
Spain Looks to EU for Help with Squatters – The European Conservative
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:35pm
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Looks like someone has petitioned the EU about the Spanish squatter situation but I imagine it will take years and probably not succeed (but who knows!).
Spain Looks to EU for Help with Squatters – The European Conservative
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:45pm
Trust me Spain is a corrupt country. Nowhere in Europe squatters are given so much of freedom
Funny thing is that once squatters are in your house , you can't cutt the electercity or stop paying the electercity. If you do so you will be held criminal not the squatters
Shame on the Spanish system
Petition should be filed to cancel Spanish memebership to European union
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:53pm
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Keith001 wrote on Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:35pm:
Looks like someone has petitioned the EU about the Spanish squatter situation but I imagine it will take years and probably not succeed (but who knows!).
Spain Looks to EU for Help with Squatters – The European Conservative
Spanish court's very reluctant to change law. If they did they would have to provide some kind of social housing to accommodate the loser or the swatter!
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:24pm
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I think the problem is the precarious political situation in Spain and the fact that none of the political parties has ever seriously addressed the lack of social housing in Spain which, of course, requires significant investment from central government. In order for the PSOE to form a government in 2018, they had to make a coalition with the far-left Podemos party, which insisted on additional protection for genuine renters. Unfortunately, these laws are too easily exploited by unscrupulous renters and organised squatter gangs. As recently as February last year, a new anti-squatting law, proposed by the right-wing PP party to protect owners' rights, was overthrown in congress by PSOE, Podemos and the independents - little wonder that we're seeing the rise of the hard-right Vox party in regional elections.
I sincerely hope that Mar Guirao is successful in highlighting this issue at the highest levels and bringing about a change to laws that provide inadequate protection for property owners, but as she knows herself, it won't happen quickly.
Kind regards,
Kim
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:25pm
Jan49 wrote on Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:53pm:
Spanish court's very reluctant to change law. If they did they would have to provide some kind of social housing to accommodate the loser or the swatter!
Yes, you have now spot on.
This whole mess is backed by Spanish government
They want these people to live free on the cost of others, so that is why
- police do not interfere
- courts delay the process , so that these squatters can live free as much as can
- then strict laws that you can't stop electercity as you will be held criminal
- infact I came to know in spain no energy service provider has option of prepaid meters .
All these above proves that Spanish government do not want to solve this problem
How can this country be part of europen union
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Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:30pm
Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:24pm:
I think the problem is the precarious political situation in Spain and the fact that none of the political parties has ever seriously addressed the lack of social housing in Spain which, of course, requires significant investment from central government. In order for the PSOE to form a gove...
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...rnment in 2018, they had to make a coalition with the far-left Podemos party, which insisted on additional protection for genuine renters. Unfortunately, these laws are too easily exploited by unscrupulous renters and organised squatter gangs. As recently as February last year, a new anti-squatting law, proposed by the right-wing PP party to protect owners' rights, was overthrown in congress by PSOE, Podemos and the independents - little wonder that we're seeing the rise of the hard-right Vox party in regional elections.
I sincerely hope that Mar Guirao is successful in highlighting this issue at the highest levels and bringing about a change to laws that provide inadequate protection for property owners, but as she knows herself, it won't happen quickly.
Kind regards,
Kim
This issue can get solved if there are prepaid electercity and water Meters , but I understand that Spanish government does not want to implement.
The know once it's get implemented no squatters will live in these house.
I will not be surprised that these mafia are run by government
That is why I still do not believe that spain is part of Europe union
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:17pm
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Honey12472 wrote on Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:30pm:
This issue can get solved if there are prepaid electercity and water Meters , but I understand that Spanish government does not want to implement.
The know once it's get implemented no squatters will live in these house.
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I will not be surprised that these mafia are run by government
That is why I still do not believe that spain is part of Europe union
Hi Honey,
Rogue renters, such as the one occupying the petitioner's property in Barcelona, may be deterred by pre-paid meters, but I'm afraid that the criminal squatting gangs won't care - typically, they by-pass any meters and connect directly to the main supply at a point before it even reaches the meter. The courts are hamstrung by the laws enacted by the Spanish parliament, but in a country where less than 1% of GDP funds the cost of its judiciary, it's hardly surprising that these matters take so long to get to court.
On a more positive note, tax residents in Spain had been living for many years under the most draconian laws that saw them face punitive fines for any omission or under-reporting associated with completion of the Modelo 720, sometimes as much as 150% of any advantage they may have obtained for the failure to comply with Spain's tax laws in the first place. In January this year, the CJEU (Court of Justice for the EU) found Spain guilty of contravening EU Law in respect of these disproportionate fines. In March, Spain responded by abolishing the associated laws, so I think this shows that raising these issues at the highest levels can be successful. Let's hope that Mar Guirao is successful with her petition.
Kind regards,
Kim
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:35pm
Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Jun 6, 2022 5:17pm:
Hi Honey,
Rogue renters, such as the one occupying the petitioner's property in Barcelona, may be deterred by pre-paid meters, but I'm afraid that the criminal squatting gangs won't care - typically, they by-pass any meters and connect directly to the main supply at a point before it even reaches the meter...
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.... The courts are hamstrung by the laws enacted by the Spanish parliament, but in a country where less than 1% of GDP funds the cost of its judiciary, it's hardly surprising that these matters take so long to get to court.
On a more positive note, tax residents in Spain had been living for many years under the most draconian laws that saw them face punitive fines for any omission or under-reporting associated with completion of the Modelo 720, sometimes as much as 150% of any advantage they may have obtained for the failure to comply with Spain's tax laws in the first place. In January this year, the CJEU (Court of Justice for the EU) found Spain guilty of contravening EU Law in respect of these disproportionate fines. In March, Spain responded by abolishing the associated laws, so I think this shows that raising these issues at the highest levels can be successful. Let's hope that Mar Guirao is successful with her petition.
Kind regards,
Kim
Kim,
The other solution will be not to rent the property and to shutdown the electercity contract.
This way no squatters will be interested in your home.
We are talking here about those houses which are one bed room flat and do not go more than 300 to 400 euros of per month of rent .and people who brought it for there future retirement
No squaters will like to enter such houses if do not have electercity.
You can get the new connection when you have decided to move. Even new connection in spain does cost a lot
Second is to get insurance to cover legal cost , so in case squatter even entered your house . These insurance can cover your legal cost and damages cost by squaters ( Arag ).
Till the laws does not change people have no other way except to take such measures and to mitigate the risk
Posted: Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:52pm
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Keith001 wrote on Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:35pm:
Looks like someone has petitioned the EU about the Spanish squatter situation but I imagine it will take years and probably not succeed (but who knows!).
Spain Looks to EU for Help with Squatters – The European Conservative
The problem is a country with a coalition government with some who are far left calling the shots. The tail is wagging the dog here & you’ll never see a government minister calling for harsher law enabling squatter evictions. Many were never tenants and just break in anyway knowing the police & courts won’t act.
Posted: Tue Jun 7, 2022 1:57pm
Seems this problem is growing a lot. I see another article today
I have already started telling all my network friends that do not buy houses in spain . The country is under the hands of Mafia.
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