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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:20pm
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Classic man

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I have a Freesat box linked to my elderly, but working TV using a lead with 3 phono plugs and SCART plug. This set up gives me a completely acceptable picture and sound but I am loosing channels on the current satellite setup.

I have connected the box to my WiFi in the hope I can recover the missing channels but will need to use the HDMI output.

A while back I bought a D to A converter, then another and then another and none of them worked.  It took them to a shop and had them checked and all seemed to be duds. The HDMI output from the Freesat box was working fine in the shop.

So today's question is..........Can you get a D to A converter that actually works without resorting to something Chinese?  HDMI input and SCART output.

Darro

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:30pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:30pm

Before you spend any more money can I ask what it is you think you'll be able to do with the Freesat box and WiFi to restore whatever it is you've lost?

There is a 32" HDMI TV advertised on the Talk Quesada forum for just €30 which I would suggest is a probably a safer investment than yet another non working AD converter!

Classic man

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:07pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:07pm

Hi Darro.

 I have lost all regional BBC1 programmes and the only place I can get it is on Freesat 212 in the morning up till 10am. Also gone are Yesterday, Quest HD and a number of other channels in the same area.  Quite a few others are pixelated or keep dropping out.
I was hoping to be able to get them back by moving from the dish to WiFi.  I think the problem is trees blocking the line of sight to the dish which I can't cut the tops off.  I am 100% certain that the dish can't have moved as it's in 3ft of concrete.

I am assuming that I can get the same programmes on WiFi as I can via the dish.  Perhaps you can confirm this.
Can you send me a link to the HDMI television?          Thanks

Well done in hitting 1000 helpful posts. Quite a milestone.

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:28pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:28pm

Its your dish needs algning or a bigger dish your outdated box does not hel as well.

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Classic man

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:16pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:16pm

molloyp9 wrote on Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:28pm:

Its your dish needs algning or a bigger dish your outdated box does not hel as well.

Pete

The dish was aligned not so long ago which is why I'm certain it won't have moved short of an earth tremor and I can't remember one of those. 

The Freesat box is only about 3 years old.  I don't expect to have to replace it yet and it seems to be working OK.
I have a 2.5m dish laid on the floor but was told not to fit it as it would bring in too much rubbish.  The current 1.8m dish is the norm round here.

Can you address the questions in my earlier post?  Thanks.

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:59pm

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:59pm

YOur dish is large enough where you are to receive the channels. (I have a 125x135cm dish just up the road from you that just about gets all channels, including those that you say you have lost - apart from in heavy rain - so your dish that is twice the size should be fine.)

It just needs the correct alignment, and good LNB which also need to be realigned... or replaced, as they do fail,+ they do not like hot temperatures!

Trees in the line of sight will block the already weak signals reaching the dish - check this by taking a photo from the centre of your dish, to the LNB and to the Sky. any tre+es in the photo will affect the signals, so consider cutting, or moving the dish.

"I am 100% certain that the dish can't have moved as it's in 3ft of concrete." - again you said this before...but it only has to move a few millimeters for the dish to move out of alignment. Earthquakes (been a few f the this year), and rain (weakens the ground underneath and the dish shelters more) can shift the concrete block. Been to many where this has happened, especially after when we had pretty much the whole of April in rain. And the big 2.4m dishes do move in strong winds (they are not idea, as they can "click" inand out of alignment easily) , they can also warp. And most of them i have seen have never been installed correctly or accurately as the rear "ring" is never 100% accurate, to a few washers are needed to reshape the dish to its optimum.

"I have connected the box to my WiFi in the hope I can recover the missing channels but will need to use the HDMI output." - Connecting the TV to your Freesat box with different cables will not restore the channels that you have lost, which are down to signals to your dish, not signals from your box to your TV. Of all the Freesat boxes I have used, the number of channels I receive has been the same no matter if using component or HDMI...it makes no difference, and makes no sence in thinking it will be any difference.

IF you want to get content from the internet (which i assume you mean "by wifi") on your Freesat box like iPlayer and UKTV for the channel that you have lost on the Freesat box, then you will need to connect the box to a router running a VPN or Smart DNS service, that is in turn connected to your main router. But then not all the channels you have lost are available live on the apps on Freesat.

"Can you get a D to A converter that actually works without resorting to something Chinese?  HDMI input and SCART output." - most will be made in China. and most will be HDMI to component, which you then have to convert to SCart. But again, if you are losing channels due to bad signals, it is nothing to do with ther connection between your box and your dish!

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Posted: Fri Sep 1, 2023 9:52am

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Posted: Fri Sep 1, 2023 9:52am

The Sat and PC Guy wrote on Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:59pm:

YOur dish is large enough where you are to receive the channels. (I have a 125x135cm dish just up the road from you that just about gets all channels, including those that you say you have lost - apart from in heavy rain - so your dish that is twice the size should be fine.)

It just needs the correct alignment, and good LNB which also need to be realigned... or replaced, as they do fail,+ they do not like hot temperatures!...

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Trees in the line of sight will block the already weak signals reaching the dish - check this by taking a photo from the centre of your dish, to the LNB and to the Sky. any tre+es in the photo will affect the signals, so consider cutting, or moving the dish.

"I am 100% certain that the dish can't have moved as it's in 3ft of concrete." - again you said this before...but it only has to move a few millimeters for the dish to move out of alignment. Earthquakes (been a few f the this year), and rain (weakens the ground underneath and the dish shelters more) can shift the concrete block. Been to many where this has happened, especially after when we had pretty much the whole of April in rain. And the big 2.4m dishes do move in strong winds (they are not idea, as they can "click" inand out of alignment easily) , they can also warp. And most of them i have seen have never been installed correctly or accurately as the rear "ring" is never 100% accurate, to a few washers are needed to reshape the dish to its optimum.

"I have connected the box to my WiFi in the hope I can recover the missing channels but will need to use the HDMI output." - Connecting the TV to your Freesat box with different cables will not restore the channels that you have lost, which are down to signals to your dish, not signals from your box to your TV. Of all the Freesat boxes I have used, the number of channels I receive has been the same no matter if using component or HDMI...it makes no difference, and makes no sence in thinking it will be any difference.

IF you want to get content from the internet (which i assume you mean "by wifi") on your Freesat box like iPlayer and UKTV for the channel that you have lost on the Freesat box, then you will need to connect the box to a router running a VPN or Smart DNS service, that is in turn connected to your main router. But then not all the channels you have lost are available live on the apps on Freesat.

"Can you get a D to A converter that actually works without resorting to something Chinese?  HDMI input and SCART output." - most will be made in China. and most will be HDMI to component, which you then have to convert to SCart. But again, if you are losing channels due to bad signals, it is nothing to do with ther connection between your box and your dish!

Thank you for that very comprehensive reply there is a lot of info to work on. 

I was obviously under one or two incorrect theories.  The main one being that if I connect the Freesat box by WiFi to the router it will give me the full range of channels on the EPG.   I understand picking up channels with the dish has its limitations which I was trying to work round as well as get the lost channels back

I think I shall have to get the trees topped as a first move.   Thank you

BeniSnowbird

Posted: Fri Sep 1, 2023 4:19pm

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Posted: Fri Sep 1, 2023 4:19pm

If you have fast stable unlimited broadband then IPTV is the way to go.

Classic man

Posted: Fri Sep 1, 2023 4:26pm

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Posted: Fri Sep 1, 2023 4:26pm

BeniSnowbird wrote on Fri Sep 1, 2023 4:19pm:

If you have fast stable unlimited broadband then IPTV is the way to go.

I am on Aireworld wireless internet and I don't think it will be fast enough, but I'm not an expert.

Classic man

Posted: Sat Sep 2, 2023 5:06pm

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Posted: Sat Sep 2, 2023 5:06pm

Things have taken a turn for the worse.  I now have no signal whatsoever.  The Freesat box  shows nothing when you go to settings.
 I suspect it may be the coax from the dish to the house which is about 30m with one joint, very well sealed. The cable runs on the wall mostly behind greenery.  It would be a swine to change.

The LNB is free from bugs which have been a problem before..  Do LNBs suddenly fail and are they prone to suddenly letting rain seep in?  Next step would be to check the continuity of the coax. Is there a recognised method of doing this?  Is there a way of testing an LNB?

If the LNB needs replacing what is a decent make to look for with two outlets?

Of course, it's always possible that the satellite has fallen out of the sky.

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