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I have a built in pellet burner with no access to the sides or top. To date I have not cleaned the flue as it's still fairly new.  Can someone who has one like this please advise how often flue cleaning is needed?  I clean the fire box every 3 or 4 bags burnt since it is getting quite full at the bottom at that time.

There is no way can you access the flue at the back without pulling the whole fire out on the slides.  This will disconnect the exhaust and intake pipes as you do. The fire was a three person lift to get it into place at the beginning.  To do this single handed does not sound like an option.

I need someone who has a built-in model to advise me how often it needs to be pulled out (in terms of bags burnt) and the vertical flue given a pull-through.  You can only access the bottom of the flue to collect the ash once the fire has been pulled out.
Had I known this when I bought it I would have made a better choice.  They don't tell you things like this.

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Posted: Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:10pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:10pm

Mine is free standing with external flue, so I can clean the flue from top or bottom. 

I only clean the flue, all parts, once a year when I finish using it in the spring. 

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Posted: Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:27pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:27pm

Relyat wrote on Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:10pm:

Mine is free standing with external flue, so I can clean the flue from top or bottom. 

I only clean the flue, all parts, once a year when I finish using it in the spring. 

You are lucky to be able to do that.  I can't even see the flue except for the last 2ft where it comes out of the original  brick flue.

A year of winter burning does not sound too bad but it all depends on how much time you have it on.  They should include an hour meter on the stove to be sensible.

Looking at what is involved even annually sounds too often!!!

The last people I need back in the house are those that were sent to commission it.  Utterly useless, knew nothing.

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:51am

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:51am

An hour meter would be useful, as in many situations. 

The annual clean yields very little, much less than I thought it would, but because access is easy I don't mind doing it. 

Just a thought, do you have access to the heat exchanger tubes for routine cleaning? If so, would it be feasible to sweep from the top of the flue and remove the ash from the heat exchanger? Appreciate that this might not be an option given that it's a built in. 

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:42pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:42pm

Relyat wrote on Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:51am:

An hour meter would be useful, as in many situations. 

The annual clean yields very little, much less than I thought it would, but because access is easy I don't mind doing it. 

Just a thought, do you have access to the heat exchanger tubes for routine cleaning? If so, would it be feasible to sweep from the top of the flue and remove the ash from the heat exchanger? Appreciate that this might not be an option given that it's a built in. 

Thanks for the suggestion but I can only get access to the bottom of the flue if the whole fire is pulled out from the hole in the wall.
It's an odd arrangement where the flue permanently connects to a 'junction box' attached to the mounting chassis that is screwed to the bottom of the opening. A pipe leaving the fire horizontally plugs into another slightly larger pipe attached to the front of the 'junction box' forming the exhaust.

You can see why I am reluctant to pull it out just to have a look if it needs cleaning. If someone had a suggestion that said it will need doing after say 50 bags or 'X' number of hours that would be the ideal answer.  But that's probably too straightforward for Spain.  The manufacturers are about as good as a sore head and you can forget Bricodepot where it came from.

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:48pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:48pm

Classic man wrote on Thu Jan 4, 2024 4:42pm:

Thanks for the suggestion but I can only get access to the bottom of the flue if the whole fire is pulled out from the hole in the wall.
It's an odd arrangement where the flue permanently connects to a 'junction box' attached to the mounting chassis that is screwed to the bottom of the opening...

.... A pipe leaving the fire horizontally plugs into another slightly larger pipe attached to the front of the 'junction box' forming the exhaust.

You can see why I am reluctant to pull it out just to have a look if it needs cleaning. If someone had a suggestion that said it will need doing after say 50 bags or 'X' number of hours that would be the ideal answer.  But that's probably too straightforward for Spain.  The manufacturers are about as good as a sore head and you can forget Bricodepot where it came from.

Hi,

   try looking around for a chimney sweep, I'm sure they will exist in Spain. Generally sweeps will have come across all sorts of chimney/stove combinations and should be able to help you out. 

 Incidentally, in the UK not having a chimney swept regularly and then having a fire related to the chimney could, probaby would, invalidate house insurance. I'm not sure if this is similar in Spain but as many insurers look for ways to avoid paying a claim it probably is the same.

  In the UK a wood burner chimney/flue annual clean costs around £40-50, the sweep provides a safety certificate after the clean which covers us from a insurance perspective. I imagine a sweep will charge less in Spain. 

Rgds, 

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:07pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:07pm

aitchc1401 wrote on Thu Jan 4, 2024 5:48pm:

Hi,

   try looking around for a chimney sweep, I'm sure they will exist in Spain. Generally sweeps will have come across all sorts of chimney/stove combinations and should be able to help you out. 

 Incidentally, in the UK not having a chimney swept regularly and then having a fire related to the chimney could, probaby would, invalidate house insurance. I'm not sure if this is similar in Spain but as many insurers look for ways to avoid paying a claim it probably is the same.

  In the UK a wood burner chimney/flue annual clean costs around £40-50, the sweep provides a safety certificate after the clean which covers us from a insurance perspective. I imagine a sweep will charge less in Spain. 

Rgds, 

Aitch.

Thanks, that is a good suggestion.  I can't say I have ever come across one, but I'll ask around and email a few folks.

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:35pm

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Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:35pm

Classic man wrote on Thu Jan 4, 2024 6:07pm:

Thanks, that is a good suggestion.  I can't say I have ever come across one, but I'll ask around and email a few folks.

Hi,

   good luck with your search. If you google chimney sweeps a few pop up but no idea what they are like.

Rgds,

Aitch. 

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