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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:39pm
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suzie123

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I have until last year always owned a property in Spain however, I am so desperate to re purchase but the 90 day stay puts me off as I would want to be able to stay longer as a pensioner I don't want to have to go through the procedure of residency so my question is, ddoes there look like there will be any action to abolish the 90 day stay 

John123456

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:49am

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:49am

Not in the immediate future. I'm sure you have heard media reports about France and if the legislation passes all stages it may become law around Springtime. Even if Spain does go down the same road as France if you stay longer than 183 days you automatically become a tax resident.

These links provides you with some information:

https://sun-lawyers.com/is-spain-set-to-end-the-90-day-rule-for-british-second-home-owners/

https://bromleyestatesmarbella.com/blog/spains-90-day-rule-is-it-about-to-change/

suzie123

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:43am

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:43am

John123456 wrote on Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:49am:

Not in the immediate future. I'm sure you have heard media reports about France and if the legislation passes all stages it may become law around Springtime. Even if Spain does go down the same road as France if you stay longer than 183 days you automatically become a tax resident.

These links provides you with some information:...

Hi there 

Thank you very much for your reply

I did hear about France and I am hopeful

Oh  not paying tax in Spain over past 20 yrs I've paid them enough tax 

Thank you so much for the links 

John123456

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:08am

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:08am

suzie123 wrote on Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:43am:

Hi there 

Thank you very much for your reply

I did hear about France and I am hopeful

Oh  not paying tax in Spain over past 20 yrs I've paid them enough tax 

Thank you so much for the links 

You're very welcome, just keep your 'ear to the ground' you never know what will happen. Good luck!

suzie123

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:34am

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:34am

John123456 wrote on Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:08am:

You're very welcome, just keep your 'ear to the ground' you never know what will happen. Good luck!

Thanks honey 

I'm reluctant to re buy whilst this limited stay is in force not that I could live again permanently in Spain however, nice to be able to spend the winter there and again as and when you need to escape the UK 

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Darro

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:24am

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:24am

I'm afraid 'nice' disappeared with Brexit and won't be returning any time soon.

suzie123

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:43pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:43pm

Darro wrote on Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:24am:

I'm afraid 'nice' disappeared with Brexit and won't be returning any time soon.

That's down to all the idiots in UK voting leave then they realise when it's too late and complain because they don't have the freedom of travel 

Had it not been for my son's and grandchildren I would never have left Spain however, I did and sold but that's not saying I won't return because I'm sure I will this year or next latest 

I absolutely love Spain 

Darro

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:04pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:04pm

You absolutely love Spain but not enough to move and pay your taxes here though?

suzie123

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:16pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:16pm

Darro wrote on Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:04pm:

You absolutely love Spain but not enough to move and pay your taxes here though?

I paid taxes there for 20 yrs and now I'm a pensioner so no don't want to pay taxes only those related to purchase etc

So given state pension I couldn't live there permanently but will buy a property if the limited days disappear 

Pauline39

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:02pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:02pm

suzie123 wrote on Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:16pm:

I paid taxes there for 20 yrs and now I'm a pensioner so no don't want to pay taxes only those related to purchase etc

So given state pension I couldn't live there permanently but will buy a property if the limited days disappear 

You would still have to pay non-resident's tax annually if you own a property in Spain.  As far as the 90-day rule is concerned, I wouldn't hold my breath.  Even with this rule you can still spend half a year in Spain, just in 2 separate periods.  I don't see any likelihood of Spain making a different rule for the British  - this would be discrimination against other 3rd country nationals.  There are plenty of EU and Schengen nationals buying property in Spain these days.  They more than compensate for any British people who have left Spain. 

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