Cyclists and road laws!! - Page 8

Meaning exactly what? Or is this just another rather silly attempt at self righteousness?

I totally agree with you. In England it's a fact that if a pedestrian puts a foot on the crossing you have to stop regardless of going too fast. In Spain there are not a lot of Spanish drivers stop, never mind cyclists. When we moved to Spain I still get mad with the cyclists blocking the road and cringe when drivers don't stop at crossings. It's Spain not England

Most HGV drivers behave responsibly.

Anyone see any wide trucks doing that? I haven't after a decade in Spain.

The teacher asked, "Johnny, why were you late for school?"

Little Johnny replies, "Sorry, Miss, but on my way to school I saw a truck hit a cyclist up the asshole -"

The teacher interrupts little Johnny, "It's rectum, Johnny, it's rectum."

Little Johnny says with a straight face, "Wrecked him, alright. It nearly f*****g killed him."

In Spain cycling is respected, if you cant show respect for other road users perhaps you should go back to the UK where drivers kill five people and seriously injure 85 people every day.  Anyway, here is a video of  a group of people cycling respectfully and stopping at a red light and a carist overtaking and speeding through the red light. Unfortunately the Spanish police wont prosecute these dangerous idiots until something happens

https://www.facebook.com/1268580954/videos/474808984608070/

I seem to remember that the highway code rule was for cyclist to ride a maximum of 2 abreast. Obviously this was the UK. Should the same not apply elsewhere. Here it appears to be at least 4 abreast with the lycra brigade.

Steve,

      your numbers may or may not be right but the UK roads are remain among the safest in Europe. If you you do a few google searches you will find that UK roads are safer than most in Europe, including Spain. Not sure why UK road stats relate to the argument on Spanish cyclists though?

Aitch.

The numbers are the oficial gov numbers www.gov.uk. an average over the last ten published recorded years. They may be low to you until someone you know gets killed or seriously injured. vulnerable road users (people who walk, ride horses, motorbikes, scooters and bicycles) That is why the highway code was updated in the UK, but the British media have been quick to develop a war like mentality and entitled carists are keen to exaggerate how long they get delayed and how important their journey was. That car that ran the red light, stopped a few miles later just the other side of the town at a bar. Road rage didn't exist in Spain but like a disease it is spreading. Give everyone room, drive slowly and respect other road users

Steve,

   I did not dispute your UK figures and I never said they were low. Your post implied that UK roads are more dangerous than Spain which I pointed out was not the case. All countries can and should improve their road safety and certainly this includes the UK.

 You seem to have come up with a new word - carists, where does that come from?

 I live and drive in the UK and I see some pretty stupid drivers who do not give space to cyclists, horses, dog walkers, pedestrians, etc. But my experience is that the majority of drivers do respect the rules that are designed to keep the afore mentioned groups safe. I also see a lot of cyclists who completely ignore the rules of the road, mainly in city's, but again the majority follow the rules of the road. 

I drive many weeks of the year in Spain and I see it pretty much the same here.

Again though, I don't see what the UK road safety situation has to do with a discussion on cyclists behaviour in Spain?

Rgds,

Aitch.