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ronjohan

Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 9:02pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 9:02pm

Elaine23 wrote on Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:15pm:

I would not want this vaccination as it seems too hurried and the long term effects still to become known.  That said I travel extensively worldwide and it may well become compulsory in the same way as yellow fever  and cholera and typhoid used to be.  Then I would probably relucta...

...ntly have it. 

How funny. This was the last reaction I read on this issue  and this would have been my reaction to add! I am so fond of travelling! So for that reason I might be taking it after a while and after some heroes try before! 

I do not think I would be specificaly in the risk area but i guess to be able to  travel to many countries a vaccination will be obligatory... 

Ronald

MeathMaria

Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 9:04pm

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Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Nov 7, 2020 5:42pm:

Hi Jackie (and Bex),

I think, to begin with at least, a Covid-19 vaccine is likely to be reserved for those in the higher risk categories anyway and I'm happy to be at the back of the queue until I decide whether it's something I would want to have when it becomes available in volume.

About a month ago, Spain's Prime Minister, Pedro Sanchez, asked the population to take up the 'flu vaccine, in an effort to reduce the number of hospital admissions at a time that could coincide with a potential peak in Covid-19 cases, so as not to overload the healthcare system.  My husband and I tried to be a good citizens, but because we're 62 and 59 respectively we don't qualify for the 'flu vaccine under the State health system.  No problem, we were happy to pay for it privately (we have private health insurance anyway), but when I tried to order it from our local pharmacy, they said it wasn't being provided to the private sector at all.  I'm anticipating that they'll take the same stance with any Covid-19 vaccine when/if it becomes available, so it may be quite some time before I need to make a decision about whether I want it anyway!  ;o)

Take care,

Kim

Hi Kimmy

I agree with you about Covid vaccine.  
Hopefully there will be stringent safety precautions and efforts made to provide it to those who potentially need it first.   

But yes we may all be queuing up to receive the vaccine if deaths continue to rise over next couple of years and restrictions prevent “normal” life.  
Take care 

Maria 

GraemeP

Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 9:11pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 9:11pm

Interesting answers. However what puzzles me is that the feeling I get is that people think this is the new life with a vacine just being an add on?

My desire is for all restrictions to end as soon as the vacine is available then everyone can choose to take it or not, but this nonsense with lockdowns, quarantine and travel restrictions needs to stop, I want the government out of my life.

Kimmy11

Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 10:25pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 7, 2020 10:25pm

Hi Graeme,

You won't find me disagreeing with your points - I'd be surprised if anyone on here does, although the average uni student locked down in Halls of Residence with their sense of invincibility may have a different view  ;o)

The conclusion of this interesting and informative article in Nature "speaks" to me:

“There’s no magic wand we can use here,” Andersen says. “We have to face reality — never before have we reached herd immunity via natural infection with a novel virus, and SARS-CoV-2 is unfortunately no different.” Vaccination is the only ethical path to herd immunity, he says. How many people will need to be vaccinated — and how often — will depend on many factors, including how effective the vaccine is and how long its protection lasts.

"People are understandably tired and frustrated with imposed measures such as social distancing and shutdowns to control the spread of COVID-19, but until there is a vaccine, these are some of the best tools around. “It is not inevitable that we all have to get this infection,” D’Souza says. “There are a lot of reasons to be very hopeful. If we can continue risk-mitigation approaches until we have an effective vaccine, we can absolutely save lives.”  Kristian Andersen, an immunologist at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02948-4

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Kim

aitchc1401

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:07am

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Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:07am

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Nov 7, 2020 10:25pm:

Hi Graeme,

You won't find me disagreeing with your points - I'd be surprised if anyone on here does, although the average uni student locked down in Halls of Residence with their sense of invincibility may have a different view  ;o)

The conclusion of this interesting and informative article in Nature "speaks" to me:

“There’s no magic wand we can use here,” Andersen says. “We have to face reality — never before have we reached herd immunity via natural infection with a novel virus, and SARS-CoV-2 is unfortunately no different.” Vaccination is the only ethical path to herd immunity, he says. How many people will need to be vaccinated — and how often — will depend on many factors, including how effective the vaccine is and how long its protection lasts.

"People are understandably tired and frustrated with imposed measures such as social distancing and shutdowns to control the spread of COVID-19, but until there is a vaccine, these are some of the best tools around. “It is not inevitable that we all have to get this infection,” D’Souza says. “There are a lot of reasons to be very hopeful. If we can continue risk-mitigation approaches until we have an effective vaccine, we can absolutely save lives.”  Kristian Andersen, an immunologist at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02948-4

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim,

       so I read into the comments you have quoted that a vaccine is the only way to get out of continued lockdowns, be they local or general. 

  Most people seem to be willing to get a flu vaccine and a question that occurs to me, I don't know the answer so it's not rhetorical, flu vaccines change every year to include protection against new flu strains that crop up on a regular basis, is it known how are they tested to ensure they are safe? We are happy to have a flu vaccination but wary of a covid19 one, seems to me that they is not that much difference.

  Meanwhile, I'm washing hands, keeping distance and wearing a mask......................

Rgds,

Aitch.

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Villas

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 11:00am

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In short.... I tend to agree regarding the validity of vaccine use where tackling the mutating covid-19 strains & their ogoing variants. Too I distrust the mask wearing pros & cons, as a means of tackling the rising virus "spike". Many believe the promise of a Vaccine, together with the mascarillas"protection" may somehow "save us" from this pandemic. In last week, 44 confirmed in our town. Four of them members of our extended family. All were "believers" of mascarillas worn at all times. They are now recovering quarantining at their respective homes & doubting the use of masks. V

Socym

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:33pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:33pm

My concern is that they may try to force the vaccine by making it compulsory for flights and travel. As already said, vaccines take years to develop, and the safety of a rushed one does not instill me with confidence. 

tebo53

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 2:50pm

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I totally agree with your comments 100%

We've all heard of vaccines going wrong that were administered in a hurry without being tested for long enough. I'll wait and be the last in the queue. 

Steve 

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 3:02pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 3:02pm

Hi Aitch,

That's how the epidemiologists and other scientists are calling it at the moment, and it sounds logical, but in the meantime I'm encouraged by the repurposing of existing, cheap drugs, such as Remdesivir, that are already proving effective in reducing the more serious symptoms in Covid-19 cases.

Regarding the testing of the 'flu vaccine, that's a very good point.   It's interesting that if you Google, "How is the 'flu vaccine tested?", I couldn't find a definitive answer.  While this article explains how it's made, I can find no corresponding article on the CDC website about how it's tested, other than a reference to "quality" testing and meeting FDA regulations:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/how-fluvaccine-made.htm

So I looked for alternative sources.  Initially, I thought this article was from an anti-vaxxer organisation, but it was created in response to why some children are more prone to disease from environmental causes.  It may explain why there is no official information available about testing methodology for the 'flu vaccine - either way, it's a thought provoking read:

https://www.focusforhealth.org/seasonal-flu-shot-and-safety-testing/

Kind regards, 

Kim

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 3:19pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 8, 2020 3:19pm

Socym wrote on Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:33pm:

My concern is that they may try to force the vaccine by making it compulsory for flights and travel. As already said, vaccines take years to develop, and the safety of a rushed one does not instill me with confidence. 

Hi Socym,

It's already started - the Canaries are insisting on a negative Covid-19 test before individuals are allowed entry to the islands 🤔

Kind regards, 

Kim

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