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tebo53

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:21pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:21pm

The 11 month contract has no real standing in the eyes of the law nowadays. Rental laws are fully behind the renters rights.

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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:18pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:18pm

nawaar08 wrote on Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:32am:

Good morning, I want to rent my flat a long rent term, I need a digital rental contract, does anyone have that? Can anyone help me with please? 

Are you saying that you have a flat that you wish to rent out to others for a long term, or are you currently renting in a flat and looking to stay in there long term?

frieda

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:52am

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:52am

We have the same problem. They offer "long time rental" but, in fact, it's only "medium" rental. To avoid quarrels between the family, we have sold our properties in Belgium, and do not want to buy any property at our age. In addition, we have 2 large adopted Russian Greyhounds. Small pets are sometimes allowed. But our dogs are better trained than most little barking and biting yappers. .

tebo53

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:29am

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frieda wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:52am:

We have the same problem. They offer "long time rental" but, in fact, it's only "medium" rental. To avoid quarrels between the family, we have sold our properties in Belgium, and do not want to buy any property at our age. In addition, we have 2 large adopted Russian Greyhounds. Small pets are so...

...metimes allowed. But our dogs are better trained than most little barking and biting yappers. .

What do you mean by "Medium" rental? 

Some apartments are only available for renting at certain times of the year (which should be clearly stated) before renting out to holidaymakers. 

If you have signed a "long term" contract and paid all the deposits etc then its yours to live in without interference. 

https://www.healthplanspain.com/blog/expat-tips/885-tenants-rights-when-renting-a-property-in-spain.html

Steve 

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:30pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:30pm

michael207 wrote on Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22pm:

Thank you all for your input.

(1) Steve, I'd just been looking at sites (mainly Idealista) & became quite disheartened - so really what I need to do is get over to Gandia for a week or 2, visit some estate agents & hopefully arrange some viewings? For info: last year I emailed 3 or 4 agents in Spain giving details of ...

...my plans - not one of them replied (not sure if the reason was due to me sending my message in English; perhaps they would have expected me to have translated to Spanish?). I think I did message one of them in Spanish. In any case, I heard somewhere that agents in Spain are not very interested in rentals as the money is in sales - maybe that was the reason! 

(2) I'm an Irish ppt holder - I believe that makes it easier to move to Spain (or any EU country). Is it slightly easier or a lot easier? Also, in terms of what officials would require upon arrival in Spain,  is it the country you arrive from that is relevant or does the ppt you hold trump everything else? To clarify, could it be more difficult to move from the UK (albeit with an Irish ppt) rather than from Ireland (with an Irish ppt)? Hope that makes sense. TIA

1) Most Spanish property agents do not deal with internet queries but I find that a high percentage use WhatsApp

2) Even as an Irish passport holder you are limited to 90 day stays, whereupon you then have to sign on to the Foreigners Register, which means proving that you have the means to support yourself AND requiring private health insurance.

   The way around this is to leave Spain for at least 1 day before the 90 days are up, and your 90 day count starts again

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michael207

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:45pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:45pm

TonySmith wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:30pm:

1) Most Spanish property agents do not deal with internet queries but I find that a high percentage use WhatsApp

2) Even as an Irish passport holder you are limited to 90 day stays, whereupon you then have to sign on to the Foreigners Register, which means proving that you have the means to support yourself AND requiring private health insurance....

...

   The way around this is to leave Spain for at least 1 day before the 90 days are up, and your 90 day count starts again

(1) WhatsApp - good to know. 

Cheers. 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:30am

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:30am

michael207 wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:45pm:

(1) WhatsApp - good to know. 

Cheers. 

Non residents cannot get around the 90 day rule by leaving the EU for one day before returning, otherwise everyone would be doing it.  The 180 days is a rolling period. For example, if you count back 180 days from the current date and you've been in the country for more than 90 days in those 180 days then you're here illegally. Similarly, if you count back 180 days from the date you plan to leave, and you find that your time in the EU would be more than 90 days by the date of your jntended departure then you would have been here illegally.  I have no idea where this idea of leaving for one day came from. This was something we did before Spain joined the EU.

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:04am

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:04am

dc45 wrote on Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:30am:

Non residents cannot get around the 90 day rule by leaving the EU for one day before returning, otherwise everyone would be doing it.  The 180 days is a rolling period. For example, if you count back 180 days from the current date and you've been in the country for more than 90 days in those...

... 180 days then you're here illegally. Similarly, if you count back 180 days from the date you plan to leave, and you find that your time in the EU would be more than 90 days by the date of your jntended departure then you would have been here illegally.  I have no idea where this idea of leaving for one day came from. This was something we did before Spain joined the EU.

Absolutely correct, when you are referring to Third Country Nationals, like yourselves, now after Brexit. You are now OUT of the EU, so EU rules do not apply to you, but they still apply to the rest of us. See below, the pertinent word being " ANOTHER"

Staying in another EU state for over 90 days

If you want to remain in an EU, EEA state or Switzerland for more than 90 days, you may be asked to show that you are:

  • In employment
  • Self-employed
  • A full time student with health insurance and money to support yourself
  • You have money to support yourself and health insurance (for you and your family) without state assistance

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:19am

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:19am

Stevec61 wrote on Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:18pm:

Are you saying that you have a flat that you wish to rent out to others for a long term, or are you currently renting in a flat and looking to stay in there long term?

Hello

I have a flat and want to renting for long term.

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:35am

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