Thinking of relocating to Gandia Spain

Your visa would need to be the one that allows you to set up your guest home business so your first point of contact as it is for any visa application is the nearest Spanish Consulate they will give you all the information you need.

I'm not sure that there is a visa which caters for your plan?

You should also know that a healthy  18 year old would not normally be classified as a dependent and therefore will have to make a visa application on his own behalf.

What you want to do isn’t impossible but has become very difficult for Brits since brexit.I guess you want to support yourself with the guest house,this would mean you would be self employed which is a whole lot different in Spain than the UK in that amongst many things you have to pay autonomo fees every month.For all information regarding Visas you must talk to the embassy or consulates in the UK and definitely not a Spanish estate agent or lawyer.Now if you have access to a European passport (Irish) the visa problem pretty much goes away.You just have the very real challenge of trying to make enough money from your guest house.Good luck,I hope it works out for you.

Here is a link to all the visas available for Spain, you will need to choose the visa that suits your requirements:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/londres/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/inicio.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1eG3z8BkslmqEZkxQuWSdbHClDA-PW2eFp_02PhVHoUc9fR_Pv-3QFrhM

Steve 

Your life will be harder in Spain as you need to work, be prepared to work long hours for a lot less return than you get in the UK. The laid back lifestyle that is shown on tv is only possible with ample funds to support your easy going life without having to work.

Good luck with your plans.

I’ve been watching a few re-runs on YouTube of Place in the Sun post brexit.I know it’s only a TV show,not a documentary but they way they don’t mention buying fees,community fees,visas,rental permits or any other issues that have to be overcome is breathtaking.It creates a very false picture.

Hi Nicsx and welcome to the forum,

This is much more difficult since Brexit unless, as DUI has said, you have an Irish passport, or would qualify for one by virtue of having an Irish parent or grandparent?  As your son in no longer a minor, I think he would have to apply for his own visa, but it would be worth checking with a Spanish Consulate in the UK or an immigration specialist whether, as a direct family member who would be living in the family home, he can apply as your dependant.

This link to the Spanish visa website gives general advice about the application procedure, and a link to the different visas available:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/seul/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/Consular/Visados-nacionales-Informacion-general.aspx

For what you've described, you could apply for a work visa, either as a business owner or self-employed ("autonomo"), but these have quite onerous document requirements, including submission of a business plan.  Depending on your finances, an easier route may be to apply for a Non-Lucrative visa for the first year, giving you time to set up your business (but you won't be able to earn income during that period) and then switch to one of the working visas.  To apply for an NLV, you'll need annual 'passive' income of €28,800, plus €7,200 for your son (if that is permitted), i.e. €36,000.  As you're not pensionable age, you'll also both need private health insurance.  Once your business is up and running, and you've switched to a working visa, you'll be making social security contributions, so you'll qualify for State healthcare instead.

There have been some changes this year to social security payable by the self-employed in Spain - this article is a quick summary:

https://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/life-in-spain/22406/changes-in-contributions-for-self-employed-in-spain.aspx

Visa applications have to be made at a Spanish Consulate in the UK (London, Manchester or Edinburgh, depending on where you live).  Some forum members have done this themselves, but given your proposed plans, I think it would help you to speak to a specialist immigration company in the first instance - Upsticks has been recommended by other members:

https://upsticks.es/

Kind regards,

Kim

Hi Kim

Thank you for taking the time to send me such a loveky detailed message, luckily I would have enough capital to support my son and myself for the first year or so, so that's a bonus, I am 54 now so a few years till I get my state pension but my personal pension I can draw from 55 which is this Christmas so hopefully this helps - have you liked in Spain long yourself if u don't mind me asking ? 

So with this option of a non lucrative visa doe the first year I can stay before 90 days okay etc?

I will look at your links yiu have kindly sent mote extensively soon, people must still be coming over, been watching place in the sun all afternoon and dreaming of my villa in the mountains 

Kind regards 

Nicky 

Don't put to much faith in those type of TV programmes they don't give you a true view of "real" life living here in Spain. 

Steve