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Snoxell wrote on Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:35am:
Could you not get an insulated cover from Ebay or Amazon delivered from the UK rather than a new tank? I assume it would need to be waterproof if its for external use
Hi Snoxell, I have just purchased one from << https://www.bes.co.uk >> Many of my paid orders on Ebay and Amazon never arrive in Spain. Many thanks
Kim007 wrote on Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:36pm:
Hi Sligogent
My one does NOT have an insulated jacket. It hangs outside and rapidly loses heat.
Hi, Thanks for your help. I just purchased one online from << https://www.bes.co.uk >>
Rumpelstiltskin wrote on Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:51pm:
Hello, A quick reply. Lots on ebay for you to look at. One item 230689471824 Hot water jacket £24, £11 postage,(Spain) bit of import duty. You will find cheaper options. Also, you could find a thick coat with a hood in a charity shop, as mentioned wrap it and tie around your boiler. You c...
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...ould even make your own water jacket. Have you looked in Bigmat? Anyway only a suggestion. My Regards. R.
Hi, I have just purchased one from this website: https://www.bes.co.uk >> . Hope it gets delivered.
Sligogent wrote on Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:22pm:
Hi 👋 Kim
Why would you want an insulated jacket for a Water heater. All modern Water Heater are made with insulation internally. Just Google the name and read the Specification .It EU Re...
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...gulation to have Boiler manufacturers with insulation. Most Boilers switch on when Temperature drop there is a gauge that kick in and switch on with Temperature drop near Freezing 🥶
Hope that helps 🙏
Hi, I have just purchased one from this website: https://www.bes.co.uk >> . Hope it gets delivered.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:00pm
Sligogent wrote on Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:22pm:
Hi 👋 Kim
Why would you want an insulated jacket for a Water heater. All modern Water Heater are made with insulation internally. Just Google the name and read the Specification .It EU Re...
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...gulation to have Boiler manufacturers with insulation. Most Boilers switch on when Temperature drop there is a gauge that kick in and switch on with Temperature drop near Freezing 🥶
Hope that helps 🙏
As per the above, the insulation is like an expanding foam, if the boiler is hot, you can check by feeling around the hot outlet at the bottom, but the outside is relatively cool your insulation is good to go. Any hot spots then the insulation is old and crumbling inside.
Dave
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DaveK64 wrote on Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:00pm:
As per the above, the insulation is like an expanding foam, if the boiler is hot, you can check by feeling around the hot outlet at the bottom, but the outside is relatively cool your insulation is good to go. Any hot spots then the insulation is old and crumbling inside.
Dave
Hi Dave
Thank you for your reply. My almost one year old hot water boiler tank hangs outside.
I bought it from Leroy Merlin. BES << https://www.bes.co.uk >> have just confirmed that will ship a paid order to me in Spain.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:00pm
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Kim007 wrote on Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:21pm:
Hi Dave
Thank you for your reply. My almost one year old hot water boiler tank hangs outside.
I bought it from Leroy Merlin. BES << https://www.bes.co.uk >> have just confirmed that will ship a paid order to me in Spain.
If you only bought it a year ago then it's an unvented cylinder. I would suspect insulating it will make no difference. Its not that you are having heat loss, but you are using the water and it's topped up with cold, thereby the water will go cold. 80 litres is a small boiler. A shower takes around 6 litres per minute, more if you have a rainfall shower head. Just over 10 minutes your water is gone.
swcoulthurst wrote on Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:00pm:
If you only bought it a year ago then it's an unvented cylinder. I would suspect insulating it will make no difference. Its not that you are having heat loss, but you are using the water and it's topped up with cold, thereby the water will go cold. 80 litres is a small boiler. A shower takes arou...
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...nd 6 litres per minute, more if you have a rainfall shower head. Just over 10 minutes your water is gone.
Hi Dave, Thank you for the information. I am almost at the top of a hilly area with constant wind. My water heater cylinder hangs outside and last year and earlier this year it rapidly lost heat even after a quick 7minute turbo splash shower. My shower head is very small.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:40pm
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swcoulthurst wrote on Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:00pm:
If you only bought it a year ago then it's an unvented cylinder. I would suspect insulating it will make no difference. Its not that you are having heat loss, but you are using the water and it's topped up with cold, thereby the water will go cold. 80 litres is a small boiler. A shower takes arou...
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...nd 6 litres per minute, more if you have a rainfall shower head. Just over 10 minutes your water is gone.
When boiler is heating water 💧 red light is on. So water will be cold. When red light is off water is Hot, if using kitchen sink or shower cold water enters the Boiler and red light comes on immediately. Depending on how much Hot 🔥 water you use will depend on how long red light stays on. But in my boiler maximum 30 minutes after a person is finished red light is off. When Red light is off Boiler is not using any Electricity . So I don't understand why some people switch Boiler on and off. As when Boiler is off for a Long water get cold and takes longer to heat water and uses more electricity.
That is my understanding of how Electrical Water heater works in Spain 🇪🇸. Maybe I might be wrong but I will take convincing 😀
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:01pm
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Sligogent wrote on Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:40pm:
When boiler is heating water 💧 red light is on. So water will be cold. When red light is off water is Hot, if using kitchen sink or shower cold water enters...
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... the Boiler and red light comes on immediately. Depending on how much Hot 🔥 water you use will depend on how long red light stays on. But in my boiler maximum 30 minutes after a person is finished red light is off. When Red light is off Boiler is not using any Electricity . So I don't understand why some people switch Boiler on and off. As when Boiler is off for a Long water get cold and takes longer to heat water and uses more electricity.
That is my understanding of how Electrical Water heater works in Spain 🇪🇸. Maybe I might be wrong but I will take convincing 😀
You are more or less correct. When the light is illuminated it is heating the cold water around the element and thermostat at the bottom. There could still be hot/warm water from around ½ way up. Hot water is drawn from the top and filled with cold from the bottom. But it does depend on how much water you use and if the water heater is smaller it uses water quicker and needs heating up more. It takes less time but more often. You will get some heat loss but that will depend on the quality of the water heater. Also if its stood for a while the calcium in the water will coat the element and will not heat as quick. I moved recently and just before I moved I replaced the element and ½ a bucket of calcium from inside the heater.
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