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Can you pay non-residence tax yourself without a lawyer?

Posted: Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:10am
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Jackie998

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We bought a property in January and all is great. Our only bug bear at the moment is regarding the non residency tax. Can you pay this independently? Our lawyer is charging us 100 euros a year to pay a bill of not much more!! Any advice welcome

Andresaurito

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:57pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:57pm

I have the same enquiry. Anybody with an answer?

SpanishLawyer

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:48am

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:48am

Jackie998 wrote on Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:10am:

We bought a property in January and all is great. Our only bug bear at the moment is regarding the non residency tax. Can you pay this independently? Our lawyer is charging us 100 euros a year to pay a bill of not much more!! Any advice welcome

Hello!!

Im a spanish lawyer located in Costa Blanca. You can pay the tax by yourself for sure. You have to complete the  "Modelo 210" and then pay it in a Spanish Bank. The "problem" is to calculate the tax payable according to the Spanish Law. If you have just one property in Spain is not very difficult to calculate, but you have to learn.

You know, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. 

If you have any questions, feel free to send me a message.

And BTW, take care of people around Costa Blanca, who call themselves "lawyers", its not always true. 

Tony

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:43am

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:43am

Hi Jackie,

as Tony suggests it might be simpler to get someone to do this for you.(Unless you speak Spanish and know your way round their forms!) I havn't moved over just yet but I have been told a Gestoria is the best person/office to look after this type of thing. Usually cheaper than solicitors in the long run. 

Cheers, Steve

SpanishLawyer

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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:28pm

Jackie998 wrote on Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:10am:

We bought a property in January and all is great. Our only bug bear at the moment is regarding the non residency tax. Can you pay this independently? Our lawyer is charging us 100 euros a year to pay a bill of not much more!! Any advice welcome

Im sorry but I have been very busy for serching the website in English where Spanish Tax Agency explains how the tax for properties owned by non residents works. Here it is  http://www.agenciatributaria.es/AEAT.internet/en_gb/Inicio/La_Agencia_Tributaria/Campanas/No_residentes/Impuesto_sobre_la_Renta_de_No_Residentes/Cuestiones_destacadas/Tributacion_de_los_inmuebles_urbanos_propiedad_de_no_residentes_personas_fisicas.shtml

Im trying to explain with an example. Please keep in mind that Tax Law is a unstable Law, what means that can change in the very near future. For now this is how it works:

Your house has a rateable value of 100,000 euros (if you dont know how much is this rateable value for your propety you can find it in the IBI bill, in the "VALOR CATASTRAL" section)

The non resident percentage tax is 24% for this year, so:   100,000 * 24% = 24,000 euros

The next step to calculate the tax is to apply the 2% or the 1,1% to 2,400 euros (To apply the 1,1 %  or the 2 % will depend if the Spanish Tax Agency has reviewed the rateable value of your home in the last decade or not, the most likely scenario is that the Tax Agency has done their job and your house rateable value has been reviewed in the last 10 years) 

So, 24,000 * 1,1% = 264´00 euros, which is the tax payable for a propety with a rateable value of 100,000 euros

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Jackie998

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:39am

Jackie998

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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:39am

Thank you for taking the time to reply. It all seems very confusing. I am sure i will work  it out soon!

Reinhilda1960

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:37am

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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:37am

Hi Jackie.we are belgian and also have spanish property in TOrre de La horadada. The explanation you got from spanish lawyer is correct. Download formular 210 you can find it in english fill it in.

Once filled in Let computer calculate.print it out and go to your bank. That 's all you have to do. We did it a few months ago. You have to do IT every year before

End of the year..if you need help pls let me know. [email protected] (it is for free) good luck

Vernonbg

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:47pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:47pm

Hi, just to confuse things a little more because it affects myself, I bought my bungalow in Pinar de campoverde on 15th January this year will it be at the end of this year I have to pay my taxes, it was all sorted through a lawyer for the purchase, but what I can't understand is I paid;€96,500, but Sabadel bank insured it for €65,000 both contents and buildings, so what is the taxable value, but also why dosnt buildings and contents insurance reflect what I paid on the property.

Jackie998

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:23pm

Jackie998

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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:23pm

Reinhilda1960 wrote on Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:37am:

Hi Jackie.we are belgian and also have spanish property in TOrre de La horadada. The explanation you got from spanish lawyer is correct. Download formular 210 you can find it in english fill it in.

Once filled in Let computer calculate.print it out and go to your bank. That 's all you have to do. We did it a few months ago. You have to do IT every year before...

...

End of the year..if you need help pls let me know. [email protected] (it is for free) good luck

Thank you. I will look into this method. 

Jan

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:51pm

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:51pm

Vernonbg wrote on Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:47pm:

Hi, just to confuse things a little more because it affects myself, I bought my bungalow in Pinar de campoverde on 15th January this year will it be at the end of this year I have to pay my taxes, it was all sorted through a lawyer for the purchase, but what I can't understand is I paid;€96,500...

..., but Sabadel bank insured it for €65,000 both contents and buildings, so what is the taxable value, but also why dosnt buildings and contents insurance reflect what I paid on the property.

I can answer your question about why doesn't the actual value, or price you paid, reflect the price that the insurance company value the property. - Even in the UK an insurance company will value the buildings insurance at the price necessary to rebuild that property. Rebuild costs do not take into account the land value, therefore say a property is worth 150,000 the property itself could be rebuilt at say 100,000 and the land may be worth 50,000. The contents is generally valued separately on the Buildings & Contents policy but it's the rebuild costs that you will generally see when looking at a home insurance policy, not the actual property value.

Hope this helps. I know I was confused with this once, with our UK property, as the land in the UK around London can be worth more than the property itself, which is quite scary when you see a value for home insurance - 40% of the price can be the house itself and the 60% can be land value, although this is probably not the case in most parts of Spain.

Jan

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