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Herefordjack

Posted: Wed Oct 5, 2022 7:11pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 5, 2022 7:11pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Oct 5, 2022 6:40pm:

Hi HJ,

You can get a 3-month temporary Padrón from your Town Hall, you just need to explain that it's required for a "Certificado de Registro" (residency) application.  

I don't know what you mean by, "the person concerned has no intention of just signing on at the local cop shop" and I don't believe that's what Steve is suggesting.  The applicants will have to make an appointment at the extranjeria office of their Policia Nacional headquarters.

Kind regards,

Kim   

Exactly, Kim, and that's what's proving difficult. If anyone has any tips, like what time of day or day of week to look for an appointment on the website, it would be appreciated.

Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Oct 5, 2022 7:28pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 5, 2022 7:28pm

Herefordjack wrote on Wed Oct 5, 2022 7:11pm:

Exactly, Kim, and that's what's proving difficult. If anyone has any tips, like what time of day or day of week to look for an appointment on the website, it would be appreciated.

Hi HJ, 

I haven't had to make an EU registration appointment for a long time, but if TIE appointments are anything to go by, I'd recommend first thing on a Sunday morning, or around 4pm the same day.  Good luck!

Kind regards,

Kim

Herefordjack

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 11:11am

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Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 11:11am

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Oct 5, 2022 7:28pm:

Hi HJ, 

I haven't had to make an EU registration appointment for a long time, but if TIE appointments are anything to go by, I'd recommend first thing on a Sunday morning, or around 4pm the same day.  Good luck!

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank you Kim.

Stephanie86

Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:24pm

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Posted: Thu Oct 6, 2022 2:24pm

A Gestor should not be that expensive just to arrange an appointment and do the basic paperwork  We changed our old bits of tatty green paper earlier this year at the local Gestoria in Jalon. She got appointments within five days and only charged us 20 Eu each. That seems worth it to me. I think Gestorias and Abogados have either a secret access system, or they have block bookings allocated.

FYI we used Mavi at MA asesores in Jalon, sorry, lost phone number but all info online.

Red01

Posted: Sun Oct 9, 2022 7:06pm

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Posted: Sun Oct 9, 2022 7:06pm

Herefordjack wrote on Wed Oct 5, 2022 3:00pm:

I have been approached by an EU citizen newly arrived in Spain to help her and her family obtain residencia. I know all about the documentation required and how to get it, but making an application appointment with the government offices is proving impossible.

Does anyone know what the story is? I keep getting a message on the official site for appointments saying 'an error has occurred, try again later'. Has anyone gone through this lately? What's your advice? She doesn't want to pay for a gestor and neither should she, it's a fairly straightforward p...

...rocess when it works.

The person lives in Pego but I presume distance is no object for an appointment. Any constructive comments appreciated.

Hi,

We recently obtained our residencia. It took us about 3 months to get an appointment, all I can advice is to keep persevering. I just made 1 appointment and we both went. The whole thing took about 20 minutes. We didn’t take anyone with us, as long as you have all your documents in copy’s you should be fine

Red

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Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:57pm

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:57pm

Hi HJ,

I've recently downloaded from Google's PlayStation (for Android) an app that alerts me when new appointments become available at different Extranjería offices.  I didn't share it initially because I didn't think it was working (see the error message in the attached photo).  However, I've just received the third alert in 3 days, so it appears that it is actually working.  Of course, it probably means you're going to need to be able to jump on the Cita Previa system quickly, but hopefully it will help:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extranjeria.extranjeria 

When you receive an alert, it will tell you which regions have new appointments available.

Kind regards, 

Kim

YvonneF

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:19pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:19pm

As an EU immigrant to Spain, I registered on the Padron here in Torrevieja this week - 7 weeks after arriving (I bought a house here). The padron certificate was issued immediately (several copies) and I was told by the administrator to renew it in 2 years. I haven't started the residency process yet, but my understanding is that padron comes first, then residency. There seems to be a lot of misinformation about the padron on here - I was told by one contributor that I couldn't get it without residency, which is incorrect. 

I'm not having a go at anyone, just requesting that if you're asked for facts, rather than opinion, please make sure you're advising correctly to avoid confusion! 

I'm learning Spanish, but not very good as yet. One piece of advice I would give, is take a Spanish-speaker with you if you can. I got by without, but not a word of English was spoken by anyone and it was rather daunting! (Also, I hadn't expected to have to queue in the street for an hour before being admitted into the office, despite arriving 10 minutes before my appointment, as advised). Glad it's done at least!

Dave101b

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:30pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:30pm

Herefordjack wrote on Wed Oct 5, 2022 3:00pm:

I have been approached by an EU citizen newly arrived in Spain to help her and her family obtain residencia. I know all about the documentation required and how to get it, but making an application appointment with the government offices is proving impossible.

Does anyone know what the story is? I keep getting a message on the official site for appointments saying 'an error has occurred, try again later'. Has anyone gone through this lately? What's your advice? She doesn't want to pay for a gestor and neither should she, it's a fairly straightforward p...

...rocess when it works.

The person lives in Pego but I presume distance is no object for an appointment. Any constructive comments appreciated.

I'm going through the process of making an application for a Nav and have waited 3 months to get a date. There has been a backlog as international students wanting a visa from Uk etc now need a visa rather than simply coming to Spain as part of EU. We simply have to wait a bit longer thats all.

Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:01pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:01pm

YvonneF wrote on Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:19pm:

As an EU immigrant to Spain, I registered on the Padron here in Torrevieja this week - 7 weeks after arriving (I bought a house here). The padron certificate was issued immediately (several copies) and I was told by the administrator to renew it in 2 years. I haven't started the residency process...

... yet, but my understanding is that padron comes first, then residency. There seems to be a lot of misinformation about the padron on here - I was told by one contributor that I couldn't get it without residency, which is incorrect. 

I'm not having a go at anyone, just requesting that if you're asked for facts, rather than opinion, please make sure you're advising correctly to avoid confusion! 

I'm learning Spanish, but not very good as yet. One piece of advice I would give, is take a Spanish-speaker with you if you can. I got by without, but not a word of English was spoken by anyone and it was rather daunting! (Also, I hadn't expected to have to queue in the street for an hour before being admitted into the office, despite arriving 10 minutes before my appointment, as advised). Glad it's done at least!

Hi Yvonne,

Then I don't think you've read any of my numerous posts on this subject.  It is illegal for non-residents to register on the Padrón, unless they require it for their Residency application.  In that case, they simply ask their Town Hall for a temporary Padrón, which usually lasts 3 months, and when they've received their residency, they go back to the Town Hall to update their records with the residency number.  Once that's done, as you say, it doesn't need to be updated for 2 years.  However, there are other formal procedures for which they may need a Padrón certificate no more than 3 months old, in which case they would need to go to their Town Hall to obtain an updated certificate.

Kind regards,

Kim

YvonneF

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:29pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:29pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:01pm:

Hi Yvonne,

Then I don't think you've read any of my numerous posts on this subject.  It is illegal for non-residents to register on the Padrón, unless they require it for their Residency application.  In that case, they simply ask their Town Hall for a temporary Padrón, which usually lasts ...

...3 months, and when they've received their residency, they go back to the Town Hall to update their records with the residency number.  Once that's done, as you say, it doesn't need to be updated for 2 years.  However, there are other formal procedures for which they may need a Padrón certificate no more than 3 months old, in which case they would need to go to their Town Hall to obtain an updated certificate.

Kind regards,

Kim

I've just registered Kimmy. They didn't ask anything except did I want to register and what was my phone number. I am resident here permanently, but I haven't started the residency process yet. Yet I have the certificate.

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