Permanent residency in Spain based on previous right of permanent residence in another state.

I've picked out the relevant bits from Real Decreto 557 - 2011, assuming you're retired here, and just done (and tweaked) a Deepl translation.

CAPÍTULO III

Mobility of long-term resident - EU in another Member State

Article 155. Long-term residence in Spain of the long-term EU resident in another Member State of the European Union.

1. Any foreigner holding an EU long-term residence permit granted by another Member State of the European Union may apply to reside in Spain, without the need to obtain a visa.

2. The application may be submitted at any time prior to entry into Spanish territory and at the latest within three months of such entry.

3. The application shall be accompanied by:

a) Proof of long-term resident status - EU in another Member State of the European Union.

b) A copy of the foreigner's full passport or valid travel document.

c) Proof of payment of the fee for processing the procedure.

d) Documentation accrediting compliance with the following requirements, depending on the motivation of the request:

1.º If the motivation is to reside in Spain without carrying out lucrative activities: documentation regarding economic means and accommodation, required to reside in Spain without carrying out lucrative activities.

The aforementioned documentation must accredit the fulfilment of said requirements in the terms established in the articles of this Regulation in the matter of residence or residence and work authorisation, depending on the reason for the application.

7. The foreigner must personally apply for the TIE at the corresponding Aliens Office or Police Station within one month of the authorization becoming valid. The TIE must be renewed every five years.

Clause 2 implies you may be too late to do it.

Clause 3d1 doesn't define what proof is required.

Thanks for that Jim, I might have guessed it would be you who jumped in first. I agree clause 2 would seem to kick the idea into touch. 

Ever the optimist though I'm thinking that when drafting that scheme for non EU immigrants nobody could have possibly predicted or envisaged anything as extraordinary or bizarre as Brexit, or therefore the potentially calamitous fallout it might create for the disenfranchised, so in a post no deal Brexit TIE environment I suppose there could be at least a glimmer of a chance that in the few instances in which these particular circumstances might arise a special case could be made so come the time I'll probably make further more offical enquiries. 

Glad to see you're using DeepL BTW, I've been using it and singing it's praises ever discovering it a couple of years ago.

Hi there

We are permanent residents in Cyprus and have our permanent residency certificates. Does this mean that we can use the form as suggested to obtain Spanish residency either before or after Brexit. i.e. "exchange the right of permanent residency in one EU state for the same in Spain via a form here"

Thanks for any clarification

Yes, irrespective of Brexit, but the requirement to prove economic means needs to be clarified.

The law doesn't impose any restriction regarding nationality.

Thanks Jim

It may make it bit easier for us but as you say what will they be looking for in the way of financials. Will it be that of an EU citizen or that of a third world citizen.

Could be a test case

We will arrive Spain on ,1st Oct pre Brexit

Cheers David

I've just had a quick shufty and can't find where the financial requirements are defined. However, as the law refers to EU residence, it seems reasonable to assume that the requirements will be the same as when applying for a residency certificate for EU nationals.

From the sound of things, you could be the first person on this forum to get a nice plastic TIE.

Not sure I'm happy about that. Up to now the race has been between Ray D and myself, and now we've got a three-legged race!

Ha ha I think the problem will be getting an appointment !

David

We also have Cypriot driving licences which are EU driving licences even post Brexit.

Will we just be able to exchange these without a medical and eye test or will that still be required ?

Thanks

David

You'll should just be able to exchange them, and only take the medical when it's time to renew.