New Restrictions - Page 21

John 52 wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:29pm:

There is no doubt it is extremely difficult to keep social distancing in large cities but Spain has allowed local authorities to administer laws in their own regions and while the major cities have faced very severe restrictions  ,less densely populated areas have had more normality  ,c...

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...ontrast that with the UK where they wished to administer laws from Westminster  ,looks to me like Spanish method has been more successful  

dinnerout wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:57pm:

Are you seriously trying to suggest that we should be thankful to Boris Johnson for the relative success of Spain's approach to managing the pandemic?

That 'we should think ourselves lucky' there weren't millions of Brits here?

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Absolute nonsense I'm afraid. 

aitchc1401 wrote on Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:00am:

Except the UK is split into 4 regions and each region administers it's own rules. In all regions they have worked with the number of infections by quantity and by age, numbers in hospital, numbers in ICU, etc, etc - decisions have been made based on those figures. I am sure Spain and other countr...

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...ies do similar. Spain may look better to you but in reality it is not that much different, 

The biggest change here recently has been the new strain which started increased circulation before Christmas. locally where we live (Lincs) there have been massive increases in the past 2 weeks, even though we are mostly rural. That is not easy to deal with whoever is in charge. 

Aitch.

   

Grannyrose wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 7:18pm:

John 52, there is absolutely no chance of any of us going to Spain by February , no chance at all. I have prepared myself for Easter But again, there’s a big question mark hanging over that as well.

People in the U.K. are being reckless and in denial. They are refusing to believe that COVID 19 is as dangerous as we are told. People say that they don’t know anyone who has died apart from those with underlying health conditions. I now know some people who gave had it and are now fine. The co...

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...untry cannot be governed because too many people believe that they know best. How can you MAKE people do what they do not wish to do. No matter what our Prime Minister does, many ignore him. Spain was different, you were dictated to and could not and would not dare to break the rules. Back then it worked but not fir long. Your Prime Minster wanted tourism to start big time but our Prime Minister refused to allow us to be used as fodder. Your memories are very short. Economies are in serious danger and the British government have given a great deal of support to businesses and their employees. Honestly, stop bad mouthing the government and open your eyes and ears. Blame the people who continually socialise and ignore all the advice given to us. It’s not difficult for  people who do what they are expected to do, like ourselves but not everyone is the same. Blame them. Encourage friends and family to follow all guidelines.  This pandemic is winning hands down and if Boris were to stand on his head and beg everyone to stay at home, it wouldn’t make a hoot of difference. We are beaten without the vaccine and we’ve a long way to go yet.  

Thank goodness for Netflix and central heating! Not to mention our home delivery people. We are not planning to ignore the guidelines, we plan to stay home. 

dinnerout wrote on Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:11am:

What do you think of a PM who says on Saturday "our schools are safe and it's vital that we continue to send our children to school" then on Monday announces that schools will be closed until the middle of February?

Is it any wonder that people - including some Tory newspaper editors - question the way that strategy is formulated?...

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Grannyrose wrote on Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:48am:

My daughter lives in London and has a very high powered job. How do you expect someone like her to deal with such a change eg home schooling while you are trying to do an important job of work? On 2 occasions, her little boy was told to self isolate for 2 weeks. That is another 2 weeks off school...

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... and his mother is yet again called upon to stay at home and be a mother. Now, schools are closing indefinitely.please tell me how she and thousands of other mothers are supposed to deal with this situation. It’s impossible and cruel to children, they miss their friends, the routine and the stimulation of their little brains. Boris has made it clear from the offset that he wants all children to attend school and it’s because of massive pressure from advisors that he has been forced to do a u turn.  My daughter can’t even employ somebody suitable as nobody is allowed into their home. I rang her today and she had been crying her eyes out. No family nearby to help. Were we living near them, the kids could come and stay with us and we would enjoy home schooling and the pleasure of their company but that’s not an option. They aren’t allowed to come to our house or anyone else’s either. Now, tell me what you suggest a mother/ father should do.  In my day, I never worked and was able to stay at home and be a Mum and housewife which is the perfect way if you can afford it.  There must be so many stressed out parents all over the country with nobody to turn to for support. Kids are safe as houses at school. I know many medical people whose children have been attending school all the way through Covid 19 and they have had no problems and better still, their children are receiving an excellent education by professionals.

I hope this helps to explain why our government is doing its best to keep schools open, people have to work to pay their mortgages and feed their family.

dinnerout wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:47pm:

So, you don't think that the decisions made by leaders and when they make them has any impact on outcome?

You're free to think that but confidence in the UK Government to deal effectively with the crisis has been dropping since the summer and continues to drop.

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In Spain we had a very very strict first lockdown, I dont think the majority of British people realised just how strict it was. It certainly didn't get much news coverage in the UK.

Since then, shops bars restaurants schools have all remained open. They're still open.

Yes, it's a difficult situation for any government but I know where I'd prefer to be living throughout this, and it ain't the UK!

Grannyrose wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:24pm:

John 52,  I’m back again!

The Rep of Ireland went down the same route as Spain and did their utmost best to stop the spread of the virus. You could not travel out of your county or go any further than 5 kilometres and guess what? Back to square one. Now in complete lockdown again. 

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To all of you expats in the Costa Blanca region, thank Boris for preventing you and the area becoming heavily infected. With no travel permitted last summer, he saved you all big time. Can you imagine what would have happened if Spain’s invitation to come on over and enjoy your holiday in Benidorm and every other resort area had been permitted?  You wouldn’t be telling us how safe you feel, it would have been a very different story. Get down on your knees and thank God that you are safe and should remain safe unless  restrictions are lifted. Stop fooling yourselves, you are only safe because there wasn’t an influx of tourists from here , there and everywhere.  You are in the very rare position where life is actually relatively normal. You can go out for lunch, dinner or a drink or pretty much do anything that pleases you shopping in Cortes Ingles, La Zenia etc., very few people are entering your rarified atmosphere. Keep it that way. Long may this last. You are safe while your area is not being invaded. Let’s hope the covid test remains as mandatory. It must be made to include people travelling through France.  Stay safe. 

sheilaheggarty wrote on Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:37am:

Are you seriously suggesting Johnson has handled it well .The new cases today just in England were 57,874 , in Spain they were 4, 420 and in France they were 4,022 .

There were 80,000 in the whole of the UK on December 31 st. And numbers have gone up by 42%.

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We need to thank our lucky stars that the population in Spain and France keep to the rules and guidelines and that their governments react quickly  and ahead of the curve , unlike Johnson who is two steps behind and constantly changing his mind . I’ll thank my lucky stars when someone more competent is in charge in the UK. 

The numbers speak for themselves. I don’t even want to mention the mortality rate . 

Terryoneone wrote on Tue Jan 5, 2021 7:30am:

Cant believe the Boris bashing continues, using spain as an example of how things should be done, is comical...

I think it was mentioned yesterday that the uk has vaccinated more people than the entire EU and now with the AstraZeneca vaccine online, this will only push the gap wider.

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The answer out of this Covid-19 scenario appears to be vaccination, not handling it well.

Please don’t start on about the EU vaccine, pziser are American, spain meanwhile has waited with its hand out for more EU funds...

The uk as a little tiny island leads the way in the only strong way out of Covid ,the EU relys on both the UK and America.