Brexit: Ever had the feeling you've been conned? - Page 7

Hi Nothgiel,

I'm a British immigrant to Spain (sorry, I don't like the "expats" term, it smacks of the long-departed British Empire and the days of colonialism). I also voted Remain and, as a resident in Spain, Brexit is likely to have minimal impact on me - the jury's still out on the direction of currency exchange, but I'm old enough to remember when the air stewards used to hand out those little entry visa forms on the plane, for us to complete just before we landed, and I never cared about duty free allowances because I didn't (don't) smoke!  

But I do have great sympathy with those holiday-home owners, who voted Remain, and will no longer be able to use their second homes to the extent they may have planned.  Yes, they will be able to visit other, non-Schengen countries, but for all those Remain voters who made an investment in second homes in the EU, their right to Freedom of Movement has been taken from them and I suspect the vote being "democratic" will be of little comfort to them.

Kind regards,

Kim

Isn't one of the issues that Spain (and possibly other countries in the EU not that I'm familiar with their requirements), that they "turned a blind eye" to the activities of a number of UK holiday makers.

This either allowed them to stay for >90 days but not apply for residency. Or alternatively apply to go on the padron when they had no intention of actually becoming permanent residents. This was because it wasn't proactively monitored.

For the majority of 2nd home owners, now complying with a rolling 90 in 180 is likely not to be a material issue. Now, Spain has to monitor it because of Schengen rules but they should have been doing it before. Not doing so has seemingly provoked much displeasure among tourists who were actually breaking the rules and getting away with it prior to leaving the EU.

Bang on George. 

Exactly, George 👍

well said

I voted to remain and have over the years found brexiteers to be quite aggressive about the cause to leave the EU. If making a comment online about how it will affect me personally and the lives of others I have been met with abusive remarks, no sensible argument or any sympathy for those brits who are having a tough time of it. A lot of ridicule and rude remarks called remoaners.  Its childish behavior back in the playground.  However the UK is split down the middle over this and should have been thought through and decisions made for the minority.  To hear that there needs to be a deal to keep the brexiteers happy why!  What about the rest of us do we not have a say.  

Considering we have based our investments, lives, jobs and future happiness as EU members for the past 50 years, all decisions made to retire to Spain before the referendum, now catapulted out of our comfort zone for  a referendum which the result was taken far to seriously. Yes I can hear the democracy cry as that is the Brexiteers ace card, however could have been handled better Theresa May in her Brexit means Brexit would not listen to any of the MPs in parliament trying to tell her how it would affect the country. We are so relieved we moved to Spain and able to get our residencia and now can enjoy the wonderful benefits the EU has to offer.  We do not reside in the UK and most likely will not return we stay loyal and stick to our guns, unlike many expats who voted to leave and still expect to live in Spain and enjoy the benefits of being in the EU these types are hypocrits and most likely the ones causing trouble on blogs and misery for those who now reside in Spain and depend on their pensions to live here, which sadly may not be a option anymore. 

We have read that many business and banks have now moved to Holland and Belgium, HSBC bank,Jaguar,Bodyshop, Barclays moved to Ireland, Lloyds of London to brussels, dyson to singapore, Airbus making decision

Panasonic (Moved its European headquarters from the UK to Amsterdam) P&O (Shifted the registration of its UK vessels to Cyprus) Sony (Moving European headquarters from the UK to the Netherlands) AXA (Moved UK staff to Republic due to Brexit) UBS (Moved €32 billion) EBA (The European Banking Authority (EBA) closed its Canary Wharf office and will re-open in Paris, France) Schaeffler (Closed two UK plants because of Brexit) Flybmi (Went bust, cancelling all flights with immediate effect and blamed Brexit as the main cause of its collapse) EMA (The European Medicines Agency has closed its doors in the UK with the loss of 900 jobs ahead of Brexit) MoneyGram (Will move its European headquarters out of London to Brussels) Nissan (Nissan has reversed plans to invest in new manufacturing capacity in the U.K., citing ‘continuing uncertainty’ around Brexit) Toyota (Toyota has said that it could end U.K. production as early as 2023 if the country leaves the European Union without a deal) Body Shop (Body Shop will be making staff redundant in the UK as they move some of their operations to Europe, ahead of Brexit) Michelin (Michelin announced plans to close its factory in Dundee in 2020.

And many more!!!!!