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Malc123 wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:59pm:
Seat belts don’t stop you dying in a car so by your reckoning none of us should wear them. It’s about reduction of transmission and preventing serious illness. But I guess that doesn’t suit your agenda
Assuming you haven't encountered anyone with serious side-effects. I have.
Bodil wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:49pm:
Assuming you haven't encountered anyone with serious side-effects. I have.
I’ve had Covid and it wasn’t bad as had three jabs. Also had a car accident and the seatbelt saved me but it gave me injuries. Think I’ll still wear it though. As for serious consequences of t he jab I had a sore arm but some people I know died of it early in. Glad I had the jabs
Malc123 wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:59pm:
Seat belts don’t stop you dying in a car so by your reckoning none of us should wear them. It’s about reduction of transmission and preventing serious illness. But I guess that doesn’t suit your agenda
Please don't twist my words to suit your agenda.
Me? I have no agenda. I have never stated a pro or anti position for any/all of the vaccines. I have never made public my views on Covid.
All I have ever said is that none of the vaccines will stop everyone being infected and will not stop all of the infected from infecting others.
I argue not the semantics of viral loads, lessening of likelihood, lesser chances of complications or severity of illness. Those are different arguments altogether, as are those surrounding, for example, seat belts.
Thus far you, amongst others, do not fault my position (without introducing an unconnected subject that you seek to use as a comparitor) but somehow find yourselves unable to agree that we agree.
Bodil wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:41pm:
The spread of Covid makes no difference if you have a jab or not. Even Boris admits this now.
Well if Johnson says it, it must be true!!!
Portet wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:28pm:
Well if Johnson says it, it must be true!!!
This time, he is actually supported by many studies. Not sure if he knows that, though.
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Portet wrote on Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:32pm:
But they reduce the probability
Why are there surges of Covid in Gibraltar and Israel with near 100% vaccination rates?
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:41pm
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Bodil wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 4:49pm:
Assuming you haven't encountered anyone with serious side-effects. I have.
I lost a day of work yesterday after having my 2nd injection (1st J&J) on Monday. Slight fever, body aches, chills and the injection site hurts...
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:42pm
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December 3rd the covid passport comes into effect.. Are you prepared??
Bodil wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:38pm:
Why are there surges of Covid in Gibraltar and Israel with near 100% vaccination rates?
It would be worse without them
Bodil wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 5:35pm:
This time, he is actually supported by many studies. Not sure if he knows that, though.
I don't see any of those studies but I see plenty like this:
Prevention of host-to-host transmission by SARS-CoV-2 vaccines - The Lancet Infectious Diseases
Can you point me to any peer reviewed studies that support his position?
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