90/180 rule - Brexit and the EU: living, holidaying and moving to Denia - Denia forum - Costa Blanca forum in the Alicante province of Spain
Thy Will Be Done
Jennifer Cunningham Insurances SL
Expat Services
interior building work
Gran Alacant Insurances
Car Key Solutions
Blacktower Financial Management
Costa Blanca Building Specialists
ASSSA Insurance
James Spanish School
Espana Dream Properties
AA Free English TV
Gentlevan Removals
Airport Service Taxi Mil Palmeras  Torre de la Horadada

Join the Denia forum

Join the Denia forumMy name's Alex and this is my website all about Denia in Spain. Register now for free to talk about Brexit and the EU: living, holidaying and moving to Denia and much more!

90/180 rule - Page 3

marcliff

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:38pm

marcliff

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 1702

2064 helpful points

Location: Rojales

Joined: 5 Jan 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:38pm

Sheila65 wrote on Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:24pm:

Ok, this is an old question I know, but  I keep having this discussion on the 90 day rule, If I stay for 14 days,  26/2  I have 76 left, so if I go back another 45=days in 180 day period which would be end of August , have 31 days left, so I lose them if I don’t use them , and wo...

...uld have to wait 90 days to renter  , as I understand it and have been using my stay that way., 

There is no period of 180 days in a block. There is no "losing" any days if you don't use them. The 180 days go from the time you enter the EU and rolls along. It is not a fixed 180 days at all.

Use this Schengen calculator and you will see the days you have left. You do not have to leave the Schengen zone for 90 days after 90 days if you have not used up your time. Just remember it is a rolling 180 days, not a fixed block of 180 days. It will depend on the time you last left and then 180 before that. Go away a week and you knock a week off those 180 days where you started from. 

Just lose the idea that it is a fixed 180 days when it isn't. eg If you leave on 26th Feb then 180 days before is 24th Aug 2023. Go away a week and your 180 days now starts from 31st August. 

Rolling 180.

marcliff

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:38pm

marcliff

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 1702

2064 helpful points

Location: Rojales

Joined: 5 Jan 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:38pm

Sheila65 wrote on Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:24pm:

Ok, this is an old question I know, but  I keep having this discussion on the 90 day rule, If I stay for 14 days,  26/2  I have 76 left, so if I go back another 45=days in 180 day period which would be end of August , have 31 days left, so I lose them if I don’t use them , and wo...

...uld have to wait 90 days to renter  , as I understand it and have been using my stay that way., 

There is no period of 180 days in a block. There is no "losing" any days if you don't use them. The 180 days go from the time you enter the EU and rolls along. It is not a fixed 180 days at all.

Use this Schengen calculator and you will see the days you have left. You do not have to leave the Schengen zone for 90 days after 90 days if you have not used up your time. Just remember it is a rolling 180 days, not a fixed block of 180 days. It will depend on the time you last left and then 180 before that. Go away a week and you knock a week off those 180 days where you started from. 

Just lose the idea that it is a fixed 180 days when it isn't. eg If you leave on 26th Feb then 180 days before is 24th Aug 2023. Go away a week and your 180 days now starts from 31st August. 

Rolling 180.

Sheila65

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09pm

Posts: 26

5 helpful points

Location: Denia

Joined: 5 Apr 2018

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09pm

marcliff wrote on Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:38pm:

There is no period of 180 days in a block. There is no "losing" any days if you don't use them. The 180 days go from the time you enter the EU and rolls along. It is not a fixed 180 days at all.

Use this Schengen calculator and you will see the days you have left. You do not have to leave the Schengen zone for 90 days after 90 days if you have not used up your time. J...

...ust remember it is a rolling 180 days, not a fixed block of 180 days. It will depend on the time you last left and then 180 before that. Go away a week and you knock a week off those 180 days where you started from. 

Just lose the idea that it is a fixed 180 days when it isn't. eg If you leave on 26th Feb then 180 days before is 24th Aug 2023. Go away a week and your 180 days now starts from 31st August. 

Rolling 180.

Thanks for replying, I’m still confused, we last left 21/10/2023, so we came back 26/02 for 14 days I thought it was a new 90 day allowed, 

Kimmy11

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:31pm

Kimmy11

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 6871

12565 helpful points

Joined: 8 Aug 2017

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:31pm

Sheila65 wrote on Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09pm:

Thanks for replying, I’m still confused, we last left 21/10/2023, so we came back 26/02 for 14 days I thought it was a new 90 day allowed, 

Hi Sheila,

Without knowing how long your previous visit was and how long you intend to stay during the current visit, it's not possible to give you a more detailed explanation with a worked example.  However, between 22/10/23 and 25/02/24, 127 days have elapsed, i.e. more than 90 days, so currently you have not exceeded the 90 days in a rolling 180 days rule.

If you have other trips planned going forward this year and you're happy to share the dates, I can give you a worked example.  However, if this continues to confuse you, I strongly advise you use one of the free online calculators, so that you can ensure you don't overstay.

Kind regards,

Kim

Sheila65

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:47pm

Posts: 26

5 helpful points

Location: Denia

Joined: 5 Apr 2018

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:47pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:31pm:

Hi Sheila,

Without knowing how long your previous visit was and how long you intend to stay during the current visit, it's not possible to give you a more detailed explanation with a worked example.  However, between 22/10/23 and 25/02/24, 127 days have elapsed, i.e. more than 90 days, so currently you...

... have not exceeded the 90 days in a rolling 180 days rule.

If you have other trips planned going forward this year and you're happy to share the dates, I can give you a worked example.  However, if this continues to confuse you, I strongly advise you use one of the free online calculators, so that you can ensure you don't overstay.

Kind regards,

Kim

I’ve found a calculator which is easier to understand than others , thanks for your help, I thought if I open my 90 days I have to use it in  180 and if I don’t use it I would have to wait 90 days after the 180  to re enter. Thank you. 

Sign up for free or login to reply to this topic

Want to reply to this topic? Login or register for free to post your message:

Find more Brexit and the EU topics from a particular area:


Register for free!

Login to your account

Thy Will Be Done
Jennifer Cunningham Insurances SL
Expat Services
interior building work
Gran Alacant Insurances
Car Key Solutions
Blacktower Financial Management
Costa Blanca Building Specialists
ASSSA Insurance
James Spanish School
Espana Dream Properties
AA Free English TV
Gentlevan Removals
Airport Service Taxi Mil Palmeras  Torre de la Horadada
Advertise your business here
Advertise your property
Help with my computer