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Darro

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:24am

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:24am

Police deal with residencia for EU citizens which used to include UK before Brexit but no more.

Could it be that whomever is 'advising' you is an EU citizen and doesn't know the difference?

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:58am

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Imara88 wrote on Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:47pm:

Thank you for your response. I am going to do more research on what you’ve said. 
A few people I’ve spoken to before coming here did say that it was easier to apply from Spain while I’m already here. What would you say is easier? 

Someone else also mentioned that here in Gandia the police station deal with most of it and that I would just need to go there with my documents- passport as that’s all I have. 
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I am here as an aupair and the mum is a manager of a hotel so I could possibly get a work contract. I also plan on doing an online  teaching course so I could earn more money. Would you say getting a work contract is the easiest and quickest option?

Ideally I would like to stay here for a year. This is my first week here. Do you suggest I go back and apply and then come back to Spain once I have my visa?
Imara  

You need to fully research what you can/cannot do whilst currently in Spain on the normal holidaymakers 90/180 days visiting scheme

1 - you should not be employed as an au pair, or indeed any other job, unless you have a work permit

2 - this can only be obtained by your employer applying via the authorities, and for it to be accepted you must already be/or in the process of, applying for a visa 

As others have said, to be accepted for a visa, you need to demonstrate an income of €28,000 euros 

Reading between the lines, I feel that you have built up your hopes of a working life in the Spanish sun based on being given incorrect information from others and not fully understanding the stringent rules.

One other thing, which others have alluded to, is that you need to leave Spain /Schengen region before your 90 days visited over the last 180 days is due. If you have been in the country on one continuos run leading up to the 90 day limit - you must not have been in the country for a whole 90 days before your first day - and wiill not be able to return until 90 days have elapsed after you leave.

Good luck with your hopes and dreams of a new life in Spain, but please ensure that you are fully conversant with all the requirements that need to be net

BruceK

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:59am

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:59am

"I have recently moved here from England but I would like to stay here long term as I’ve fallen in love with this place, and everyone has welcomed me with love"? in a later post you share you have been there a week??? Sorry but your naivete is going to get you in legal trouble. Stop listening to bar chat and get a lawyer, learn the process, and then follow that if you are still interested. 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:22am

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:22am

Imara88 wrote on Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:03pm:

Ahh yes that makes sense. Would the British Embassy in Madrid maintains and develops relations between the UK and Spain, be of help? 

As others have already noted the British Embassy in Madrid do not get involved in residential issues. You should read the links I have included in my earlier post. You tell us you are working as an Au Pair at the moment, I assume your employer has done this legally and all is above board? The following link will provide you with information as a UK National and working as an Au Pair in Spain.

https://iasservices.org.uk/es/work/au-pair-visa/#:~:text=Overview%20of%20Au%20Pair%20Visa%20for%20Spain,-Currently%2C%20there%20is&text=Applicants%20can%20only%20work%20as,for%20up%20to%20three%20months.

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Nicsx

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:16pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:16pm

Can I ask following on from the above, if you  need to show you earn or have in yiur account 28k Euros per year but after 5 years this stops is this right ? So you only have to show you have enough money in your account for 5 years? I.e 5 x 27k euros?

John123456

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:48pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:48pm

Nicsx wrote on Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:16pm:

Can I ask following on from the above, if you  need to show you earn or have in yiur account 28k Euros per year but after 5 years this stops is this right ? So you only have to show you have enough money in your account for 5 years? I.e 5 x 27k euros?

The IPREM figure you quote is for this year 2023 but this normally changes year on year. 

Once you have secured your non-lucrative visa, it will be valid for a period of one year. If you wish to continue to reside in Spain for longer, though, you must renew your visa or risk losing your residency permit. Unlike the initial application process, the renewal application must be submitted in Spanish territory.

Generally, to renew your non-lucrative visa, you will need the following documents:

  • Application Form EX01 (two copies).
  • Fee Form 790-052 (paid and stamped).
  • Your passport (valid for at least one year).
  • Copy of all the pages of your passport.
  • Your current Tarjeta de Identidad de Extranjeros or TIE (often referred to as a resident card).
  • Health insurance that complies with the requirements of the Immigration Office.
  • Proof of sufficient and stable income for the next two years (monthly, more than four times the current year’s IPREM for the main applicant, and additionally, one IPREM for each family member).
  • Your address registration in Spain (padrón) no more than three months old
After being officially resident in  Spain for 5 years you can apply for permanent residency and if accepted there will be no restrictions placed on you.
marcliff

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:10pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:10pm

What you can't do is say I have 144,000 therefore I don't need to show anything for the next 5 years. What they are looking for is a steady income of that 28800 John123456 mentions at each of the revalidation times. 

Seems to working fairly well, though. We have 2 up the road who came in on Golden visas (both properties 670,000), 2 on the urbanisation (and we have nearly 200 properties on our bit) with NLV as retired and purchased properties and one couple on NLV who are long term renters. The ones I've spoken to says it goes through quite quick but it depends on the mood of the person at the consulate on the day you go. One got sent away three times to get the correct stamp on the bank statements.

All the non Golden visa ones did complain about getting an appointment here for residencia as you are only allowed 3 months and 15 days to get it done and they were getting a bit itchy with the time running out. One couple are now coming up to their 3 year revalidation period. 

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