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Biff

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:33am

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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:33am

He parted and starmer had an indoor meeting that was a lot more dangerous as regards peoples health! If Labour get in you will have less money in your pockets as they cannot do as they wanted without taking off the working people. Every government upsets us all , they all end up unpopular as they do as they do , but Labour will be the worst in my opinion that we’ve ever had! I have never thought this before , but I think they will be a disaster! I know there isn’t a lot to choose from , and another term of the tories will not be great! However , this Labour Party will take us for everything we have ! That’s why I’m living in Spain! They understand here now , that’s why Vox are trying to get rid of Pedro Sanchez 

Paul

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:35pm

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aitchc1401 wrote on Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:29pm:

Hi Paul,did you actually read the article that V. posted?

Quote:

"We are not introducing an EU-wide youth mobility scheme - free movement within the EU was ended and there are no plans to introduce it," a government spokesperson said on Friday evening.

Downing Street said it prefers country-by-country deals to an agreement that would apply across all 27 member states.

And Labour has said it has "no plans for a youth mobility scheme" if it wins the general election later this year.

A party spokesperson said it had already pledged "no return to the single market, customs union or free movement" if it takes office.

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  It was also pointed out that the UK already runs schemes with some non-EU countries to allow people to come to the UK for up to two years.

Not exactly a disgraceful refusal and Labour are in agreement with the policy. Maybe you'd be better to vote for the Lib Dems?.

I wonder if the generous EU offer was linked to the fact that many EU countries have a significant shortage of skilled workers?

Rgds, 

Aitch.

I doubt very much the shortage of skilled workers in the EU is anywhere near as bad as it is in the UK, PM Starmer will definitely rebuild bridges with the EU and yes I will be voting Lib Dem as Labour can't win where I'm from.

aitchc1401

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:45am

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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:45am

Paul wrote on Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:35pm:

I doubt very much the shortage of skilled workers in the EU is anywhere near as bad as it is in the UK, PM Starmer will definitely rebuild bridges with the EU and yes I will be voting Lib Dem as Labour can't win where I'm from.

Google skilled worker shortage in Europe and you'll see the facts. 

Could luck with voting Lib Dem.

Aitch.

Biff

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:59pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:59pm

Paul wrote on Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:23am:

This governemnt are a disgrace and seem to be deliberately making things even worse for the incoming labour government, that was a generous gesture from the EU just like when they said we could join their vaccination procurement scheme and Johnson's govt rejected their offer.

Unfortunately we are also suffering from what Gordon Brown did when he raided the good and the pensions … The new incoming govt have to deal with that ….Whovsuffers  the working people !….Tories are bad , Labour are worse , and the others wouldn’t get in if they were any good 

Paul

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:44pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:44pm

Biff wrote on Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:59pm:

Unfortunately we are also suffering from what Gordon Brown did when he raided the good and the pensions … The new incoming govt have to deal with that ….Whovsuffers  the working people !….Tories are bad , Labour are worse , and the others wouldn’t get in if they were any good 

Labour sold the gold reserves but all that money was traceable and went into improving public services,  the tories have since more than doubled the national debt and that was pre-prepandemic, they have also inflicted brexit on us which according to the OBR and the IMF has hit our economy by 4% year on year, they also paid out hundreds of millions to friends of the party through their VIP lane for PPE some of it entirely useless, the whole cabinet have offshore accounts which can only be for tax avoidance.

The others can never get in because the UK is not a democracy and a vote for the greens for instance would be throwing your vote away, the tories 80 seat majority was won with just 43% of the vote, the 57% have no say on anything, anyway enjoy the sun.

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Biff

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:45am

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:45am

Paul wrote on Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:44pm:

Labour sold the gold reserves but all that money was traceable and went into improving public services,  the tories have since more than doubled the national debt and that was pre-prepandemic, they have also inflicted brexit on us which according to the OBR and the IMF has hit our economy by...

... 4% year on year, they also paid out hundreds of millions to friends of the party through their VIP lane for PPE some of it entirely useless, the whole cabinet have offshore accounts which can only be for tax avoidance.

The others can never get in because the UK is not a democracy and a vote for the greens for instance would be throwing your vote away, the tories 80 seat majority was won with just 43% of the vote, the 57% have no say on anything, anyway enjoy the sun.

Well as I say, it might be traceable but we have to  pay for it Working people! The mess of Brexit,is as regards immigrants, Labour supporting solicitors are making a fortune stopping these people being deported, Trade wise a few remainders have said they think we will end up in a better position! The national debt has come about because of the past Labour government, and I’m sure you know it will become worse , because Labour have already said it will unless Keir Starmer changes his mind again…..Can you imagine Angela Rayner running the country!….You are right about Tories lining their pockets, but loathe them as people do , they are the only ones that can manage to run this country, I cant prove what I’m saying unless they get in, then it will be too late!. He is taking us back into Europe, but not by name …The EU has already said we will pay for it, and we will by taxes on the working people ….I understand you not liking the Tories , but don’t make it worse , by voting Labour !!

Paul

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:43am

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:43am

Biff wrote on Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:45am:

Well as I say, it might be traceable but we have to  pay for it Working people! The mess of Brexit,is as regards immigrants, Labour supporting solicitors are making a fortune stopping these people being deported, Trade wise a few remainders have said they think we will end up in a better pos...

...ition! The national debt has come about because of the past Labour government, and I’m sure you know it will become worse , because Labour have already said it will unless Keir Starmer changes his mind again…..Can you imagine Angela Rayner running the country!….You are right about Tories lining their pockets, but loathe them as people do , they are the only ones that can manage to run this country, I cant prove what I’m saying unless they get in, then it will be too late!. He is taking us back into Europe, but not by name …The EU has already said we will pay for it, and we will by taxes on the working people ….I understand you not liking the Tories , but don’t make it worse , by voting Labour !!

I honestly can't believe that people are willing to give the tories another chance after the last 14 years, what more do they need to do to people, they've crashed the economy while massively enriching party donors, they've taken away our free movement, ruined the NHS and allowed the water companies to pollute our rivers and seas and can you tell me when the EU said we'll pay for it.

Villas

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:04pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:04pm

Paul wrote on Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:43am:

I honestly can't believe that people are willing to give the tories another chance after the last 14 years, what more do they need to do to people, they've crashed the economy while massively enriching party donors, they've taken away our free movement, ruined the NHS and allowed the water compan...

...ies to pollute our rivers and seas and can you tell me when the EU said we'll pay for it.

No options. They, the, (UK) politically correct, "woke" inspired  inclined, media controlled voters & (un-elected) trade unions may follow in the Labour disasters. There seems to be (very little) differences. V

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:56pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:56pm

Biff wrote on Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:45am:

Well as I say, it might be traceable but we have to  pay for it Working people! The mess of Brexit,is as regards immigrants, Labour supporting solicitors are making a fortune stopping these people being deported, Trade wise a few remainders have said they think we will end up in a better pos...

...ition! The national debt has come about because of the past Labour government, and I’m sure you know it will become worse , because Labour have already said it will unless Keir Starmer changes his mind again…..Can you imagine Angela Rayner running the country!….You are right about Tories lining their pockets, but loathe them as people do , they are the only ones that can manage to run this country, I cant prove what I’m saying unless they get in, then it will be too late!. He is taking us back into Europe, but not by name …The EU has already said we will pay for it, and we will by taxes on the working people ….I understand you not liking the Tories , but don’t make it worse , by voting Labour !!

Hi Biff,

What makes you think the country will be worse off financially under a Labour government?  The facts show that their track record of managing the UK economy are much closer than you believe and, in fact, Labour edges out the Conservatives on a greater number of the most important metrics:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-which-party-has-a-better-track-record-on-the-economy#:~:text=On%20face%20value%2C%20Labour%20have,rates%20during%20this%20whole%20period.

Kind regards, 

Kim

Biff

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:13pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:13pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:56pm:

Hi Biff,

What makes you think the country will be worse off financially under a Labour government?  The facts show that their track record of managing the UK economy are much closer than you believe and, in fact, Labour edges out the Conservatives on a greater number of the most important metrics:...

Well as I say, it might be traceable but we have to  pay for it Working people! The mess of Brexit,is as regards immigrants, Labour supporting solicitors are making a fortune stopping these people being deported, Trade wise a few remainders have said they think we will end up in a better position! The national debt has come about because of the past Labour government, and I’m sure you know it will become worse , because Labour have already said it will unless Keir Starmer changes his mind again…..Can you imagine Angela Rayner running the country!….You are right about Tories lining their pockets, but loathe them as people do , they are the only ones that can manage to run this country, I cant prove what I’m saying unless they get in, then it will be too late!. He is taking us back into Europe, but not by name …The EU has already said we will pay for it, and we will by taxes on the working people ….I understand you not liking the Tories , but don’t make it worse , by voting Labour !!

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