Healthcare post-Brexit - Page 2

I`m holding back moving to spain due to Brexit,havng said that I shoud not expect free health care in a foreign country after leaving europe

Switzerland isn't in the EU and the UK has signed a trade agreement with them to continue trading as at present post Brexit. This is why agreement has been reached on reciprocal arrangement for citizens rights. 

Agreement for EU countries is being negotiated at the EU level not individually. To date the UK's refusal to confirm reciprocal arrangement is a major source of frustration for the EU and thus key issue for the future relationship negotiations. 

The EU has repeatedly stated that they will negotiate as 27 and not individually. Citizens rights are scheduled to form part of the "future relationship" which is to be negotiated during the implementation phase; in fact they are one of the key things the EU wants agreed prior to talks on trade. All 27 will have to approve the agreement through their own parliament, but there has been no indication of bilateral negotiations as this would undermine the EU position. 

The real challenge here is the UK, not the EU, who see citizens rights as a negotiating point. The UK has repeatedly said EU citizens will retain existing rights, but they have equally done everything possible to make that process as difficult as they can whilst at the same removing any & all obligations to do so. Remember immigration was one if the key promises of the Leave campaigns. 

The EU has repeatedly stated that they will negotiate as 27 and not individually. Citizens rights are scheduled to form part of the "future relationship" which is to be negotiated during the implementation phase; in fact they are one of the key things the EU wants agreed prior to talks on trade. All 27 will have to approve the agreement through their own parliament, but there has been no indication of bilateral negotiations as this would undermine the EU position. 

The real challenge here is the UK, not the EU, who see citizens rights as a negotiating point. The UK has repeatedly said EU citizens will retain existing rights, but they have equally done everything possible to make that process as difficult as they can whilst at the same removing any & all obligations to do so. Remember immigration was one if the key promises of the Leave campaigns. 

Switzerland isn't in the e.u.

A wise approach. Never ceases to amaze me the Brits who are relocating to Spain have the attitude that things operate as they do in the UK. leave brains on the runway?

Hey everybody.

I must admit I do like it when someone asks a question regarding Brexit, loads of answers and suggestions pop up. How, I don't know as NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON , knows ANYTHING.  Plain and simple, a fact beyond all facts. Why guess, why suppose, nobody know jack lol.

You also have these so called Brexit Meetings , WHY ?????? Pointless, absolutely pointless, everything that is said is supposition. Not even Blownob Boris knows and he is directing it !!!!!!

Hi Snowkatt57,

Here's a FACT for you: YOU are WRONG!!!!

UK citizens living in Spain, who are in receipt of UK State Pension, have received a letter from the NHS Business Services Authority, advising them that, in the event of a 'no deal' Brexit, the Form S1, which allows them to transfer their rights to free healthcare from the UK to Spain (or any other European country) will cease to be valid.  That's not a "suggestion" or a "guess", it's a FACT.  So, when someone asks a question about "Healthcare post Brexit", I think it's important that they take into consideration the POSSIBILITY that they may have to pay for private healthcare for the rest of their lives (or join the Convenio Especial) if they move to Spain.

Here's another FACT for you: if there's a 'no deal' Brexit, the UK Government has already stated that there will be no State Pension increases for UK citizens living in Europe beyond 2022.  Again, that's not a "suggestion" or a "guess", it's been published by the UK government on their own website: www.gov.uk

If you choose to ignore the FACTS, Snowkatt57,  that's your prerogative, but please don't insist that the rest of us should do the same.

(Apologies to other forum members who will know that I don't generally like the over-use of capital letters and exclamation marks, but sometimes, needs must......)

Kind regards,  

Kim

We have agreed a deal. Why is no deal still being bandied around. 

They are crowd funding to bong big ben when we leave, it's raised nothing but scorn. 

There will be a party at 11pm at the end of the month in London, too, celebrating. 

Hi Sam,

I believe "the deal we have agreed" which you refer to is the Withdrawal Agreement and, yes, it has passed through UK parliament, but has yet to be ratified by the EU, probably on 30th January 2020.  

This Withdrawal Agreement is largely based on it's predecessor, drawn up by Theresa May's government, with the the removal of some key elements, such as workers' rights.  

However, a supporting bill has also been passed into UK law which prevents BoJo's government from being forced by the UK parliament into asking the EU for an extension to the transition/implementation period, currently set as 31st December 2020.

This is key to the negotiation of the new Trading agreement between the UK and the EU.  You may have seen references in the media to the anticipated difficulty of achieving such a complex agreement in only 11 months?  In fact, the EU has said that it won't be ready to start this next set of negotiations until end February and they need to be completed by the end of August, in order to have the new Trading arrangements ratified by both parties before the end of the transition period.  So, that effectively reduces the 11 month negotiation period to 6 months.  If this can't be achieved and because of that additional Bill I mentioned earlier, there is a possibility that we could get to the end of the transition period with no new trading arrangements in place and simply "fall out" of the EU, i.e. a 'no deal' or 'hard' Brexit.

Had that additional Bill not been passed into UK law, the UK parliament may have been able to force BoJo's government into asking the EU for a further extension.  BoJo says this additional Bill prevents Remainers frustrating Brexit; Remainers believe that it was introduced to allow Brexiteers the 'hard' Brexit they always wanted.

Hopefully,  this explains why it is so important to understand the implications of a 'no deal' and contingencies that can be built into the plans of UK citizens still hoping to make the move to Europe before 31st December 2020.

Kind regards, 

Kim