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Thank you.from what i have read on line the tax goes back 4 years with interest and the fine will probaly make up for the rest ,but i will no more tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56pm
Stirling36 wrote on Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:56pm:
Thank you.from what i have read on line the tax goes back 4 years with interest and the fine will probaly make up for the rest ,but i will no more tomorrow.
Please let us know how you get on. It may help others in your position.
Cheers & good luck
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:01pm
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PeterPan wrote on Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:41am:
I would be tempted to employ a gester to submit your non res tax for this year, I think you've got until the end of December for this years submission. Then play it by ear, you may be lucky and they just accept it. If not, then you've a few years back payment and fines & interest to pay but i...
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...t's not a massive amount.
Hi Stirling36,
I agree with PeterPan. You do not need to waste money on a lawyer who will tell you what you've already been told - the Spanish tax office (Agencia Tributaria) can go back up to 4 years to claim the annual back taxes, plus fines for late payments. Engage a gestor to submit your Non Resident Tax (Modelo 210) for this year - I also recommend Spanish Tax Forms:
https://www.spanishtaxforms.co.uk/
This can all be done via email and if you're not in Spain, they can make the tax payment on your behalf for a small extra charge. If you are currently in Spain, the other gestor I would recommend is Uma Sanz at Get Legal in Spain:
https://www.getlegalinspain.com/index.html
Your first submission this year may well trigger a claim from the tax office for back taxes and fines, but please don't worry, you're certainly not the first non-resident to be unaware of this requirement, but you don't need to pay a lawyer's hourly rate to do something that a competent gestor is perfectly capable of doing at a much lower fee.
Kind regards,
Kim
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:30pm
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Stirling36 wrote on Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:51am:
Thank you, i.m going to see a lawyer.i would not no where the tax office is.my first lawyer never told me this.but i.m responsible for it so i will have to take it on the chin.i,m exspecting a fine with 4 years back tax with interest i.m sure it has happened to other people i would like them to t...
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...ell me what happened to them.kind regards.ds
Hi
We saw a Spanish lawyer about our non-resident tax and were advised that as we completed 16th December 2019, that we needn't bother making a submission for 2020. Last year, we approached the same lawyer, and they seemed slow completing the documentation, so we went to Sun Lawyers (fiscal department). They were brilliant. It turned out we should have made a submission during 2020, so Sun Lawyers did this on our behalf. We were required to pay 20 euros tax plus interest. Sun Lawyers now make our submission annually and the process is easy. I would imagine you will be required to pay the amount of back-tax, plus interest that the tax office is allowed to request from you. I imagine, being proactive now and straightening out this situation will end positively for you
Sue
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:20pm
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Sue 079 wrote on Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:30pm:
Hi
We saw a Spanish lawyer about our non-resident tax and were advised that as we completed 16th December 2019, that we needn't bother making a submission for 2020. Last year, we approached the same lawyer, and they seemed slow completing the documentation, so we went to Sun Lawyers (fiscal departme...
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...nt). They were brilliant. It turned out we should have made a submission during 2020, so Sun Lawyers did this on our behalf. We were required to pay 20 euros tax plus interest. Sun Lawyers now make our submission annually and the process is easy. I would imagine you will be required to pay the amount of back-tax, plus interest that the tax office is allowed to request from you. I imagine, being proactive now and straightening out this situation will end positively for you
Sue
Hi Sue,
How much does Sun Lawyer's fiscal department charge for completing and submitting your Modelo 210 please?
Kind regards,
Kim
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:57pm
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Kimmy11 wrote on Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:20pm:
Hi Sue,
How much does Sun Lawyer's fiscal department charge for completing and submitting your Modelo 210 please?
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Kind regards,
Kim
50 euros each person, each year plus 21% tax.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:02pm
PeterPan wrote on Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:41am:
I would be tempted to employ a gester to submit your non res tax for this year, I think you've got until the end of December for this years submission. Then play it by ear, you may be lucky and they just accept it. If not, then you've a few years back payment and fines & interest to pay but i...
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...t's not a massive amount.
It happened to me when I lived in tenerife.same rules mainland spain.I did not pay for 12 years and a friend put me onto a jester.no need for a layer.The jester told me to pay 4years and that was the end of that
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:46pm
Stirling36 wrote on Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:03pm:
I don,t rent it out.i lock it down i come over 4 times a year at a time.i.v always payed my suma tax which i get letters for in november and emails but i never had any letters about non res tax i.m sure they must be other people in the same boat .i only found out on friday and will be seeing a la...
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...wyer tomorrow, or at least getting things going i will keep this forum posted to let other people no what happens.ds thank you.
Do you spend more than 182/183 days a year in Spain? Jim
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:55pm
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Sue 079 wrote on Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:57pm:
50 euros each person, each year plus 21% tax.
Thanks Sue, that's almost double the amount Spanish Tax Forms Ltd. charge at £34.95 per property (not per person) plus £12 to pay the tax on behalf of the owner. Also, I believe a Spanish gestor would be cheaper than a lawyer too.
Kind regards,
Kim
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:05pm
Hew wrote on Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:15pm:
I would suggest with your personal circumstances in mind, you initially pay for some professional advice from a solicitor. It will obviously entail some cost, but not excessive compared to the potential consequences. Just pay for an initial consultation, they will explain your options. Then you c...
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...an make your own decision on which way you want to go. But it will be based on professional advice, not peoples opinions. You will most likely get replies asking how could you possibly allow this to happen, also pointing out the potential consequences and so on. But the best way forward right now is to get some professional advice.
Agree with professional advice
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