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DavenJules

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:29pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:29pm

Helz52 wrote on Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:50am:

There are some very good responses on here, and Brexit will make it much more difficult for Brits to attain residency.

My advice to you is do not sell your house in U.K. yet, the prices are crashing after Covid. I urge you to come and trial Spain to see how you settle. Take a winter rental. Rent your own house out for the income. I put mine with an agent who is worth his weight in the payment I have to make to hi...

...m, and so I have no worries out here.  Everything is much simpler once you are here and living. If you take a rental from September it will give you sufficient time to sort out your residency pre- Brexit. The Ambassador has said that residencies proved to be in the pipeline will be honoured after 31st December if you haven’t then succeeded in getting all your documentation together. 
Personally, I used the services of a tax adviser which was unbelievably cheap, and of course, her Spanish and English were fluent which was extremely helpful when I felt a little stressed by the system. 

In the short term you could home educate your children. By now you will have got used to it. But there are private international schools in Alicante and Benidorm, or throw them in at the deep end and send them to state school. They would soon learn the language. 

The Spanish lifestyle is good and wholesome and it’s fairly easy to live within your budget. I hope you will seek to integrate both linguistically and culturally. Think hard about Sax, it is lovely, but oh so Spanish for a growing family, they may need more excitement than a sleepy Spanish town. 
But first, come and try it. I have seen folk sell everything in the U.K. and then after a short time realise it’s not for them and gone back. It’s more pricey to return than to emigrate to Spain. 

Don’t give up on your dream! 

Dear Helz52,

Would you mind PM'ing me with your tax advisor's details please? Am seeking the same.

Cheers,

Dave

Web Designer Guy

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:50pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:50pm

Villas wrote on Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:22pm:

"Think hard about Sax, it is lovely, but oh so Spanish for a growing family,"

Very true above. This is in Spain.  & therefore is potentially good for a: Spanish living growing family.

V

Have to agree. It's very Spanish-ness is what I like about Sax. That you can walk into a shop, or many of the bars, and meet Spaniards who don't speak English is very refreshing, considering it's still very close to the coast, relatively speaking.

We may or may not end up buying the "holiday home" in Sax, that is still in the balance with other areas in contention, but I'd say we'll definitely be buying the family home there once we permanently relocate in a few years.

DavenJules

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:59pm

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Web Designer Guy wrote on Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:50pm:

Have to agree. It's very Spanish-ness is what I like about Sax. That you can walk into a shop, or many of the bars, and meet Spaniards who don't speak English is very refreshing, considering it's still very close to the coast, relatively speaking.

We may or may not end up buying the "holiday home" in Sax, that is still in the balance with other areas in contention, but I'd say we'll definitely be buying the family home there once we permanently relocate in a few years....

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Me too WebDesignerGuy...the people are lovely and could not be more helpful. Despite our faltering Spanish, Google Translate beforehand we walked out of the hardware shop on the main street with the paella pan and burner (which they fully fitted to the connectors) with a big smile on our faces ;-)

Kevman

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:11pm

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:11pm

Con T wrote on Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:29pm:

Hi Niki, it appears that "no-gooders" are invading your post for their own childish reasons. Ignore them and concentrate on the helpful advice. This is a major move and you don't need or deserve this.  Poison people no doubt enjoy upsetting the nice. Just hope it goes back to them 100%! 

Hi Niki

We have an appointment in Alicante in two weeks for a residency application, we have to supply 6 months bank satements stamped by the bank, they have to be in Spanish! Also proof you have payed for private medical care including surgery, again stamped by the bank. Proof of €700 each going in each month and €7000 each in the bank. Pardon certificate no more than 3 months old and a few other bits. I would advise you get a good English speaking solicitor! Good l

Aholden2

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:53am

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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:53am

Web Designer Guy wrote on Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:55pm:

Thank you, im optimistic as the work thing cant be as bad as where I live now

Unfortunately, it most likely is. Imagine being in the area you're in now, looking for work, but not being able to speak the local language. How much chance would you have of getting a job?

After the crash in 2008 the building sector in Spain shrank by 96%. That's not a typo. It more or less disappeared. Spain for most ex-pats, even those fluent, means hard work, long hours and low pay. Spain is like that outside the big cities even for the Spanish to be honest. Work is hard to find and almost always low pay with zero stability.

I'm not trying to put you off, just being honest. I'm sure you could make the tree surgery business work, but it'll take time and you will need to be able to speak Spanish in an area like Sax.

As for Sax, it's a great place. It's not "picture postcard" Spain as it's a real Spanish working town. The old town is just like many inland old towns: Narrow street, some lovely houses, some falling down houses. Many houses that could do with a lick of paint etc. The new part of the town is fairly architecturally bland, but it's got everything you could need. There does seem to be a small Brit ex-pat community in Sax, there is a bar on the road that runs parallel to the new main street that has what appears to be mostly Brits. Not sure what it's called, never been in it. But generally speaking Sax is a traditional Spanish working town that is a great place to live. It's really cheap too, which is a bonus!

Fingers crossed we'll be out there in July to buy a house. Not for a perm home, not yet, we'll just use it when we visit. But plan to live it permanently once we move out in a few years. At least for a year or two.

There are far nicer parts of Spain to buy in, but few with the same facilities that are only 30mins from the coast. And those nicer parts are way more expensive!

Please don’t let me put you off but don’t give up your house in the UK. Working and living in Spain is very hard work especially if you don’t speak the language. Even eventually if you do find work you will need to work many hours to bring in a reasonable wage. It’s hard graft and you don’t get to enjoy the reason you decided to live there. I know as I  worked my butt off to live there but it became too much. Only go if you have plenty of money to not worry about finding work and you don’t need to work every hour god sends to pay bills and eat. It’s certainly not a holiday that’s for sure. Good luck 

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dogsbody

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:06pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:06pm

Not the best place to buy in my experience.In my business,now retired,I was responsible for sending peoples's pets all over the world as part of this.I could write a book about the British families who came to Spain with a dream & an idea but sadly it was not as they imagined.Don't want to put you off though,we were innocents also at that time although we were buying an established business from a Spaniard.Having 3 dogs could pose problems especially if renting,& does your 5 family group include your pets or children/other adults?One time I had to get a tree sturgeon from Javea,I was in Alfaz,to prune a lovely tree,told it was a "persian lilac" as I needed someone with expertise as it was growing across the roof of a property I had just bought.Perhaps you could look at other towns?

Helen28

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:25pm

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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:25pm

Niki74 wrote on Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:05pm:

We have been learning Spanish, my husband is crap at it...bit like Del boy..haha. We don't mind commuting for work but I was hoping to work teaching English, as I would prefer to live amongst the Spanish, not English (Benidorm isn't appealing at all), I prefer the culture of Spain as apposed to E...

...nglish. Where we live in Devon the weather is just awful most of the time and I have arthritic knees from working with horses the weather is a big pull for me, and also the drug culture here and crime is hugely on the rise as is suicide rates which is bloody awful, I want to get them away asap. The two teenagers that would come with us are into music, one sings and one is working at trying to produce music so we would be doing a studio for them. The town I researched the most was Sax, and due to low crime and the people all seem so lovely, we thought that was our best bet.

Niki

Hi 

Best free app for learning Spanish is Duolingo (green owl) I have been using it and can now have a conversation in Spanish. 

Helen

Niki74

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:49pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:49pm

Helen28 wrote on Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:25pm:

Hi 

Best free app for learning Spanish is Duolingo (green owl) I have been using it and can now have a conversation in Spanish. 

Helen

I have been using this daily, so much easier when around Spanish people though 

Niki74

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:56pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:56pm

Elaine23 wrote on Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:01pm:

Hi Niki

As everyone has said you are not faced with an easy task.  I have lived in the countryside of Spain for 12 years with very few English people around or the language spoken.  I had a friend here who spoke quite good Spanish and a qualified nurse but was unable to get employment.  Th...

...ey stayed for several years and managed to get along by teaching the locals English but it was not a living.  If it is the countryside you are interested in then look at Pinoso as there are a number of English people there and the language is spoken by some Spanish which may make it easier for you to find some work.  Good Luck and don’t give up as it’s well worth it.

We did see a few houses in that area also, it had enough space to rent a house out too as well as one for ourselves. 

Niki74

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:03pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:03pm

Thank you to everyone for their help and advice with regards to Sax, also other extremely useful advice about working and moving, etc. 

Niki

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